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For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

Verax said:
LoL, wtf is a pocket mouse? Lenny? John Coffee? Who are you?

I've actually been posting about how Putin isn't Hitler, this isn't WWII, and I don't think Russia taking Crimea is incredibly surprising. What I've been posting against is people suggesting we should be going full out against Russia trying to assert our military dominance, its madness.
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Well then we agree. I thought my comment was to OWO. Did I accidentally address you with it? I'll go see.

Edit, ok I see, "you two" was he and the mouse in his pocket, nothing to do with you.
 
Montecresto said:
You said I was so obvious, as a criticism, as though I was trying to be incognito about my views somehow.
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Because it's been implied or said several times that you're a paid shill. Like, seriously, try to ****ing keep up.

Verax said:
LoL, wtf is a pocket mouse? Lenny? John Coffee? Who are you?

I've actually been posting about how Putin isn't Hitler, this isn't WWII, and I don't think Russia taking Crimea is incredibly surprising. What I've been posting against is people suggesting we should be going full out against Russia trying to assert our military dominance, its madness.
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What's funny is that I absolutely agree with you about the US not using anything close to military force in Ukraine. Something that Monte probably agrees with too. Just for wildly different reasons.
 
Montecresto said:
But I don't believe you've seen me criticizing good things America does. Like when we use our military to bring food, water and medical aid to the Philippines after a hurricane. And not that it matters, but how would I prove my citizenship to you? If I rationalized failed and corrupt US foreign policy?
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Well it just seems like you're always against the U.S. even when its more of a neutral situation. The Russians are not teddy bears and if we can wrestle all of Ukraine away from them with some somewhat shady doings I'd be ok with that, just nothing too extreme.

You don't need to prove anything to me, I've just always felt like you're a foreigner for some reason is all.

Montecresto said:
Well then we agree. I thought my comment was to OWO. Did I accidentally address you with it? I'll go see.

Edit, ok I see, "you two" was he and the mouse in his pocket, nothing to do with you.
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Haha ok.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Oh, I've seen that. It's awesome!

"Pearl Harbor? The US forced Japan to act in that way, it's the US' fault!"

but then...

"Nagasaki and Hiroshima? The US was wrong to attack!"

Of course, if you're going to make one argument, you could easily make the converse, too...he just never manages to make them. It's always the US being the devil in Monte's religion.

Seriously, I highly doubt Monte is paid because...no one would pay for that. Truly, if he was being paid, it probably would be the US IC, because reading his posts actually makes criticism of the US- which of course can be just as legit as the criticism of any country- look absolutely retarded. But then...even for disinfo he'd be too dumb and heavy-handed.

I'm forced to conclude Monte is just an actual real person. Well, just like a real person but...slower.
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No doubt.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Because it's been implied or said several times that you're a paid shill. Like, seriously, try to ****ing keep up.



What's funny is that I absolutely agree with you about the US not using anything close to military force in Ukraine. Something that Monte probably agrees with too. Just for wildly different reasons.
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All critics of US foreign policy are shills.
 
US Conservative said:
So Obama gets to decide if he takes a hit from shrinking the military in a volatile world, or takes a hit from cuts to his domestic policy.
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ah, another excuse to implement 'starve the beast' politics against the least among us
such a backward, neoconservative approach
 
Montecresto said:
All critics of US foreign policy are shills.
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Is this another time where you fail to understand what is front of you? I said it's been implied that you're a shill (I don't agree, I don't think you're intelligent enough....as we see here, with me having to explain this to you); that doesn't mean that everyone who is a critic of US foreign policy is a shill.

No one said that. I don't think anyone thinks that. It's a straw man that you created....for no reason whatsoever? Like it makes no sense. It doesn't fool anyone. But you still made it...or were honestly confused and thought that that was what it meant. So...yeah, I don't think you have the means to be a shill. So you're in the clear, Monte!
 
Verax said:
Well it just seems like you're always against the U.S. even when its more of a neutral situation. The Russians are not teddy bears and if we can wrestle all of Ukraine away from them with some somewhat shady doings I'd be ok with that, just nothing too extreme.

You don't need to prove anything to me, I've just always felt like you're a foreigner for some reason is all.



Haha ok.
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In any general sense, I don't think that Russia is a teddy bear, same with the US. I just believe that lately they've been right on Libya, Syria and here with the UKRAINE. I've discussed in some detail where I live, my ranch my solar house, my lake house, my dads involvement in the battle of the bulge, my sons in Iraq. I guess you have missed those few occasions.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Is this another time where you fail to understand what is front of you? I said it's been implied that you're a shill (I don't agree, I don't think you're intelligent enough....as we see here, with me having to explain this to you); that doesn't mean that everyone who is a critic of US foreign policy is a shill.

No one said that. I don't think anyone thinks that. It's a straw man that you created....for no reason whatsoever? Like it makes no sense. It doesn't fool anyone. But you still made it. So...yeah, I don't think you have the means to be a shill. So you're in the clear, Monte!
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Look, apologists for US foreign policy accuse me of that or anti American or nazi sympathizer, or sympathetic of dictators or whatever. Just because you haven't seen every post, doesn't mean I don't get it here. I've always been in the clear, even with the accusations. It doesn't affect my pace at all.

Post 131! SEE?
 
Montecresto said:
I just believe that lately they've been right on Libya, Syria and here with the UKRAINE.
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lol, what was the last foreign policy that you think the US was "right" with? Keeping in mind that your version of right and theirs are very different, as they're interested in furthering US interests and you're interesting in...not that.
 
Montecresto said:
Look, apologists for US foreign policy accuse me of that or anti American or nazi sympathizer, or sympathetic of dictators or whatever. Just because you haven't seen every post, doesn't mean I don't get it here.
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This has nothing to do with anything. My post was responding to you saying that every critic of US foreign policy was a shill. I was asking where you got that from or if you just made it up to make yourself feel better.

STAY FOCUSED
 
Others reading your posts besides me think differently.
The Putin admiration society really makes quality conservatives, not you, sick to their stomachs .
US Conservative said:
:roll: Im not admiring anything.
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OldWorldOrder said:
lol, what was the last foreign policy that you think the US was "right" with? Keeping in mind that your version of right and theirs are very different, as they're interested in furthering US interests and you're interesting in...not that.
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Why would you ask a question couched in such terms, obviously you don't care about my views on US foreign policy, yet oddly enough, just as on the previous board, you follow me from thread to thread spending by far the majority of your time with me. Proves the effectiveness of my posts!
 
I'm sorry, I'm seriously laughing now:
#1- I post that people think you're a shill, you post that you're not hiding anything.
#2- I reiterate: some people think you're a shill. You make a weird straw man.
#3- I tell you it's a straw man and is dumb.
#4- You tell me that people think you're a shill, as if that's adding something to the discussion, like you apparently forgot about #1.

Like...wtf, seriously. Come ON, this is just pathetic of you.
 
Montecresto said:
Why would you ask a question couched in such terms, obviously you don't care about my views on US foreign policy, yet oddly enough, just as on the previous board, you follow me from thread to thread spending by far the majority of your time with me. Proves the effectiveness of my posts!
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...what? Did that make sense in your head? Can you answer the question?
 
OldWorldOrder said:
I'm sorry, I'm seriously laughing now:
#1- I post that people think you're a shill, you post that you're not hiding anything.
#2- I reiterate: some people think you're a shill. You make a weird straw man.
#3- I tell you it's a straw man and is dumb.
#4- You tell me that people think you're a shill, as if that's adding something to the discussion, like you apparently forgot about #1.

Like...wtf, seriously. Come ON, this is just pathetic of you.
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:roll: :lamo :doh :lol: :shock:
 
Montecresto said:
:roll: :lamo :doh :lol: :shock:
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Thank you. You ended up trying to convince me of something that I initially told you, that you didn't understand. Montecresto in a nutshell.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Thank you. You ended up trying to convince me of something that I initially told you, that you didn't understand. Montecresto in a nutshell.
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I'm a cog in your wheel. It's hilarious.
 
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