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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Are my eyes deceiving me or is someone patronising a well regarded poster like PSK?
    LOL, your eyes (or other senses) are deceiving you. Neither am I in the position to, nor would I presume to, patronise anybody, least of all a polite and reasonable poster such as Proud South Korean.
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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

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    LOL, your eyes (or other senses) are deceiving you. Neither am I in the position to, nor would I presume to, patronise anybody, least of all a polite and reasonable poster such as Proud South Korean.
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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Is that why the USA has installed Oligarchs around Ukraine to maintain order, discipline, etc.
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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Can you name a few of these Oligarchs?
    ?Rule by oligarchs: Kiev appoints billionaires to govern east ? RT News

    "The self-proclaimed government in Kiev has appointed two of Ukraine’s richest men to govern large industrial regions in the defiant east. One of the reasons for the Maidan protest was the influence the rich have on politics in the country.

    The appointments of new governors of Donetsk and Dnepropetrovsk Regions are among 18 made on Sunday by Kiev, which is struggling to consolidate power after the coup which ousted President Yanukovich last month.

    The newly-appointed Dnepropetrovsk governor is Igor Kolomoysky, Ukraine’s third-wealthiest man, with an estimated fortune of $2.4 billion. He co-owns the informal commercial group Privat, which includes Ukraine’s largest bank Privatbank, which Kolomoysky heads, as well as assets in the oil, ferroalloys and food industries, agriculture and transport.

    A former ally of Yulia Tymoshenko, Kolomoysky reportedly had a falling out with her and refused to finance her election campaign in 2010, which the ex-prime minister subsequently lost to Yanukovich. Kolomoysky was reported to be a principal sponsor of the UDAR party, which is one of the three fueling the street campaign to oust Yanukovich. Kolomoysky has a dual Ukrainian-Israeli citizenship and controls his business empire from Switzerland.

    The new governor of Donetsk Region is Sergey Taruta, who is estimated to worth around $2 billion, putting him among the top-10 wealthiest people in Ukraine. He heads ISD, one of the biggest mining and smelting companies in the world, and also own Donetsk-based Metallurg Football Club. "

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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Despite what Hillary Clinton said about international verses US news, they won't accept rt.
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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    LOL, your eyes (or other senses) are deceiving you. Neither am I in the position to, nor would I presume to, patronise anybody, least of all a polite and reasonable poster such as Proud South Korean.
    For the record.

    My criticism of US foreign policy during the WW2 era was that due to American loses of blood and treasure in a European war just twenty years earlier, Americans were sorely disinterested in a replay, despite sympathies for those being abused by Germany and Japan, an April 1941 Gallop poll showed 80% of Americans opposed to US involvement. Even though FDR had been doing all he could to provoke Germany to attack us, being quietly at war with them in all but declaration, trying to pull them into an overt attack, they wouldn't, and he turned his attention to Japan, burdensome sanctions (America's favorite diplomacy) and an ultimatum no country could accept, Japan took the bait. Ten days before the attack, secretary Stimson wrote in his diary that FDR had told him that a Japanese attack was imminent, and could come on Monday (he missed it by a day) and in an earlier writing, he disclosed that FDR hoped the attack would be sufficient to turn public opinion, but didn't hurt us too bad. He was willing to loose a destroyer or two, but not five or six. The week after the attack on Pearl Harbor, those Gallop poll numbers nicely reversed.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    ?Rule by oligarchs: Kiev appoints billionaires to govern east ? RT News

    "The self-proclaimed government in Kiev has appointed two of Ukraine’s richest men to govern large industrial regions in the defiant east. One of the reasons for the Maidan protest was the influence the rich have on politics in the country.

    The appointments of new governors of Donetsk and Dnepropetrovsk Regions are among 18 made on Sunday by Kiev, which is struggling to consolidate power after the coup which ousted President Yanukovich last month.

    The newly-appointed Dnepropetrovsk governor is Igor Kolomoysky, Ukraine’s third-wealthiest man, with an estimated fortune of $2.4 billion. He co-owns the informal commercial group Privat, which includes Ukraine’s largest bank Privatbank, which Kolomoysky heads, as well as assets in the oil, ferroalloys and food industries, agriculture and transport.

    A former ally of Yulia Tymoshenko, Kolomoysky reportedly had a falling out with her and refused to finance her election campaign in 2010, which the ex-prime minister subsequently lost to Yanukovich. Kolomoysky was reported to be a principal sponsor of the UDAR party, which is one of the three fueling the street campaign to oust Yanukovich. Kolomoysky has a dual Ukrainian-Israeli citizenship and controls his business empire from Switzerland.

    The new governor of Donetsk Region is Sergey Taruta, who is estimated to worth around $2 billion, putting him among the top-10 wealthiest people in Ukraine. He heads ISD, one of the biggest mining and smelting companies in the world, and also own Donetsk-based Metallurg Football Club. "
    These people were 'installed' by the US? Perhaps they are the best people to lead at this time, but we will see what happens with a little moore time. Who ever is in charge the democracies must be sure that Russian takes the Crimea and then stays there. There is no place in the world for another Evil effin Empire.

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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    For the record.

    My criticism of US foreign policy during the WW2 era was that due to American loses of blood and treasure in a European war just twenty years earlier, Americans were sorely disinterested in a replay, despite sympathies for those being abused by Germany and Japan, an April 1941 Gallop poll showed 80% of Americans opposed to US involvement. Even though FDR had been doing all he could to provoke Germany to attack us, being quietly at war with them in all but declaration, trying to pull them into an overt attack, they wouldn't, and he turned his attention to Japan, burdensome sanctions (America's favorite diplomacy) and an ultimatum no country could accept, Japan took the bait. Ten days before the attack, secretary Stimson wrote in his diary that FDR had told him that a Japanese attack was imminent, and could come on Monday (he missed it by a day) and in an earlier writing, he disclosed that FDR hoped the attack would be sufficient to turn public opinion, but didn't hurt us too bad. He was willing to loose a destroyer or two, but not five or six. The week after the attack on Pearl Harbor, those Gallop poll numbers nicely reversed.
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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Don't take conspiracy theories as fact.
    Don't take fact as a theory.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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