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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaudius View Post
    I can see a certain similarity between the German take over Sudetenland and Russia annexing Crimea. The difference is that Putin does not have such an disgusting ideology as Germany had during the 1930-ies.
    And doesn't have designs beyond the Ukraine. And had it not been for US intrigue in the Ukraine to begin with, we wouldn't even be talking about this. It's not as though Putin woke up one morning and decided to take over Europe.
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    For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't know enough about this to really comment intelligently. But that's never stopped me before. I seem to remember, when John McCain was running against Obama, that many people thought our country and perhaps the world would be exploited because Obama would be perceivedas a weak leader . . . That's IF this is even a bad thing. If Crimeans want to secede and become part of Russia, who are we to get involved??
    Honestly i think Obama is right here. This is a situation that could so easily escalate into a nasty war and it's a situation with all bad choices.

    Russia is going to do this no matter who is in charge because they know the risk calculations and it came out in their favor in short of all out war.

    I personally would rather lose Crimea than potentially millions of lives and every indication is that Putin is willing to go to this level of conflict.

    But given the geopolitical situation, if Europe alights than a bunch of the world is going to take advantage of the distraction and fight wars of their own.

    Israel will go to war with the Middle East for example. China will begin to gobble up the terrify they want too. It's potentially a huge mess.

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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And doesn't have designs beyond the Ukraine. And had it not been for US intrigue in the Ukraine to begin with, we wouldn't even be talking about this. It's not as though Putin woke up one morning and decided to take over Europe.
    How do you know he didn't?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Honestly i think Obama is right here. This is a situation that could so easily escalate into a nasty war and it's a situation with all bad choices.

    Russia is going to do this no matter who is in charge because they know the risk calculations and it came out in their favor in short of all out war.

    I personally would rather lose Crimea than potentially millions of lives and every indication is that Putin is willing to go to this level of conflict.

    But given the geopolitical situation, if Europe alights than a bunch of the world is going to take advantage of the distraction and fight wars of their own.

    Israel will go to war with the Middle East for example. China will begin to gobble up the terrify they want too. It's potentially a huge mess.
    He's willing to go all the way, because he knows Obama isn't willing to do anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He's willing to go all the way, because he knows Obama isn't willing to do anything.
    He is willing to go all the way because he is Putin and knows the world isn't. He is a smart man. There is far more to this than Putin versus Obama at the ok coral.

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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How do you know he didn't?
    Open lines of communication.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He's willing to go all the way, because he knows Obama isn't willing to do anything.
    What is "all the way"
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Open lines of communication.
    Hitler had open lines of communication, too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The US started the Ukrainian problem, Russia is responding
    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    had it not been for US intrigue in the Ukraine to begin with
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    Re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

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