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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Actually, they are Ukrainian.
    Yes I know.
    ...so why have you written that:
    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    At a ball game, here are Russians screaming "moscovites to the knifes!".
    EDIT: I see that you corrected your OP, cool.

    ...and a general FYI. Moskali = Russians in derogatory Ukrainian slang.

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    His first instinct when faced with a foreign crisis appears to be to throw bombs and/or troops at it until it goes away.
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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't know enough about this to really comment intelligently. But that's never stopped me before. I seem to remember, when John McCain was running against Obama, that many people thought our country and perhaps the world would be exploited because Obama would be perceived as a weak leader . . . That's IF this is even a bad thing. If Crimeans want to secede and become part of Russia, who are we to get involved??
    Well it isn't the first time 'many people' are wrong...

    Fact is Putin didn't hesitate a second before invaded Georgia in 'defense' of two break away enclaves from Georgian rule. That was when BushII was president. Now you BushII was perceived as many things, I doubt many said weak.

    But you are right smack dab in the middle of the X ring when you say why should we get involved. The Crimea wasn't part of Ukraine before 1955, and short of setting Europe on fire there is precious little we can do about it.

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    This is the first indication that Russia wants to illegally annex part of Ukraine?

    Perhaps sending troops into a sovereign nation was really the first...

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    Yes I know.
    ...so why have you written that:


    EDIT: I see that you corrected your OP, cool.

    ...and a general FYI. Moskali = Russians in derogatory Ukrainian slang.

    Fallen.
    Sounds like they aren't happy with Russia, doesn't it?

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    This is the first indication that Russia wants to illegally annex part of Ukraine?

    Perhaps sending troops into a sovereign nation was really the first...
    I think its the first time they have specifically stated as much, though they have hinted at it.

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Nothing is over, in fact its going to get more intense. Obama has already threatened to "isolate" Russia, but this does not appear to be sufficient to stop Russia. This conflict is about get worse.
    I'm not so sure what you mean by intense. I will say this, if Russia wants to take Crimea right now, there's nothing practical that can be done to stop them. In terms of pure power concepts, only the US could stop them militarily, and that would mean nuclear war if we tried to do it, so that's not going to happen.

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    I'll never understand the "who are we to _____" crowd. "We" are a nation with global interests, and when you have interests somewhere, you have a stake in what happens there. Whether the US gets involved or not is one thing, but the "who are we to" argument isn't a good one.
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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Obama has already interfered, but Russia is clearly interested in taking over the Crimea. At a ball game, here are Ukrainians screaming "moscovites to the knifes!".



    Also, Russians are cuting signal of Ukrainian Radio and TV stations in Crimea. Russians stations are broadcasting in their frequencies.
    I don't see the problem here.
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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    And Russia is blocking the Ukrainian navy, by scuttling ships.
    So what.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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