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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    you thought I was trying to hide something. Just ****ing rich.
    ...No...I didn't. When did I say that? Again, words mean things and this is a forum where you can just go back and see what I said. Why do you continue to lie? lol so strange. Like...everyone can see your posts, dude. lol
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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol. I want our foreign policy to fail, absolutely. It is menacing, it violates human rights, international law, and creates unnecessary enemies. My citizenship is irrelevant to whether or not US foreign policy is legitimate, too funny.
    Your citizenship is relevant because you describe yourself as an American on these forums, I do not believe you.

    There is a difference between being critical and anti-American. I am strongly critical of the U.S. because I believe in critical self reflection, we should always look at ourselves as how we can be better rather than focusing on disparaging the enemy. However it take it way too far, it seems you think the U.S. is universally evil in everything it does. I think it certainly has done some questionable things and is often a bully, but we also do a lot of good too. If we won't be the world's bully and influence everything to our favor as much as we can, there are other countries that gladly will. If I have a choice between the U.S. being the bully or someone else, I choose us.

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    ...No...I didn't. When did I say that? Again, words mean things and this is a forum where you can just go back and see what I said. Why do you continue to lie? lol so strange. Like...everyone can see your posts, dude. lol
    You said I was so obvious, as a criticism, as though I was trying to be incognito about my views somehow.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Actually, you and your pocket mouse have established absolutely nothing. You two confuse Russia's actions to secure their assets in the Crimea with a 1938 nazi invasion.
    LoL, wtf is a pocket mouse? Lenny? John Coffee? Who are you?

    I've actually been posting about how Putin isn't Hitler, this isn't WWII, and I don't think Russia taking Crimea is incredibly surprising. What I've been posting against is people suggesting we should be going full out against Russia trying to assert our military dominance, its madness.

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Your citizenship is relevant because you describe yourself as an American on these forums, I do not believe you.

    There is a difference between being critical and anti-American. I am strongly critical of the U.S. because I believe in critical self reflection, we should always look at ourselves as how we can be better rather than focusing on disparaging the enemy. However it take it way too far, it seems you think the U.S. is universally evil in everything it does. I think it certainly has done some questionable things and is often a bully, but we also do a lot of good too. If we won't be the world's bully and influence everything to our favor as much as we can, there are other countries that gladly will. If I have a choice between the U.S. being the bully or someone else, I choose us.
    But I don't believe you've seen me criticizing good things America does. Like when we use our military to bring food, water and medical aid to the Philippines after a hurricane. And not that it matters, but how would I prove my citizenship to you? If I rationalized failed and corrupt US foreign policy?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    LoL, wtf is a pocket mouse? Lenny? John Coffee? Who are you?

    I've actually been posting about how Putin isn't Hitler, this isn't WWII, and I don't think Russia taking Crimea is incredibly surprising. What I've been posting against is people suggesting we should be going full out against Russia trying to assert our military dominance, its madness.
    Well then we agree. I thought my comment was to OWO. Did I accidentally address you with it? I'll go see.

    Edit, ok I see, "you two" was he and the mouse in his pocket, nothing to do with you.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You said I was so obvious, as a criticism, as though I was trying to be incognito about my views somehow.
    Because it's been implied or said several times that you're a paid shill. Like, seriously, try to ****ing keep up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    LoL, wtf is a pocket mouse? Lenny? John Coffee? Who are you?

    I've actually been posting about how Putin isn't Hitler, this isn't WWII, and I don't think Russia taking Crimea is incredibly surprising. What I've been posting against is people suggesting we should be going full out against Russia trying to assert our military dominance, its madness.
    What's funny is that I absolutely agree with you about the US not using anything close to military force in Ukraine. Something that Monte probably agrees with too. Just for wildly different reasons.
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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    But I don't believe you've seen me criticizing good things America does. Like when we use our military to bring food, water and medical aid to the Philippines after a hurricane. And not that it matters, but how would I prove my citizenship to you? If I rationalized failed and corrupt US foreign policy?
    Well it just seems like you're always against the U.S. even when its more of a neutral situation. The Russians are not teddy bears and if we can wrestle all of Ukraine away from them with some somewhat shady doings I'd be ok with that, just nothing too extreme.

    You don't need to prove anything to me, I've just always felt like you're a foreigner for some reason is all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well then we agree. I thought my comment was to OWO. Did I accidentally address you with it? I'll go see.

    Edit, ok I see, "you two" was he and the mouse in his pocket, nothing to do with you.
    Haha ok.

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Oh, I've seen that. It's awesome!

    "Pearl Harbor? The US forced Japan to act in that way, it's the US' fault!"

    but then...

    "Nagasaki and Hiroshima? The US was wrong to attack!"

    Of course, if you're going to make one argument, you could easily make the converse, too...he just never manages to make them. It's always the US being the devil in Monte's religion.

    Seriously, I highly doubt Monte is paid because...no one would pay for that. Truly, if he was being paid, it probably would be the US IC, because reading his posts actually makes criticism of the US- which of course can be just as legit as the criticism of any country- look absolutely retarded. But then...even for disinfo he'd be too dumb and heavy-handed.

    I'm forced to conclude Monte is just an actual real person. Well, just like a real person but...slower.
    No doubt.

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    re: For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea [W:153]

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    I've always suspected Montecresto is not a U.S. citizen and isn't simply critical of America, he is anti-American as in he hates everything we do and wants us to fail at all times.
    I wouldn't be surprised.

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