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Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162:334]

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Penrod said:
They can also be BisexualThese days even the schools are turning them gay. Making it acceptable instead of frowned upon. Removing the social stigmaSo tell me are the members of NAMBLA gay or pedophiles or both?
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True...some can also be bisexual. But schools are not "turning them gay"....and why exactly should it be "frowned upon", there shouldn't be any social stigma.As far as NAMBLA. I have no involvement with them nor am I familar with their organization other than very slight, so I wouldn't attempt to speak for them or of them. I just don't know enough to comment.
 
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Wiggen said:
Jesus - they're quoting from his frickin' diary! Just admit it, you made a fool of yourself.
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I didn't even read your link. I don't read biased garbage.
 
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Penrod said:
Not between the married same sex partners they do not.

Well at least we agree there. Its funny that if you live with 2 women you are a stud but if you marry them your a criminal.
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Many married opposite sex partners cannot procreate. There could be many reasons. One or both are infertile. One or both had their "plumbing" fixed to prevent procreation. One or both don't have all the necessary equipment for procreation. The two of them together make procreation so highly unlikely that procreation would be near impossible (although separately they actually might have higher chances of procreating). Perhaps one or both have a high risk of genetic problems so they choose to specifically prevent procreation. Or perhaps it is neither of them want children. It doesn't matter because neither the ability nor desire to procreate is a requirement of marriage in the US, at all.
 
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disneydude said:
True...some can also be bisexual. But schools are not "turning them gay"....and why exactly should it be "frowned upon", there shouldn't be any social stigma.As far as NAMBLA. I have no involvement with them nor am I familar with their organization other than very slight, so I wouldn't attempt to speak for them or of them. I just don't know enough to comment.
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Teaching them it is fine is encouraging them to try it out. Heck its perfectly normal right?
 
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bubbabgone said:
Actually I wasn't even thinking of that but since you brought it up would it affect your opinion either way if it was true?Answer that and we can get to what I was going to ask.
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If there was a big discrepancy in the number of gay kids who were brought up in gay households, I certainly think it would warrant further study. But the reality is, there isn't, so its a moot point.If kids were gay because they were taught to be gay by their parents, how would you explain the numbers of gay kids that grew up in a straight household? Again, its ludicrious to even argue it.
 
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Penrod said:
Teaching them it is fine is encouraging them to try it out. Heck its perfectly normal right?
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No school encourages kids to try out gay sex any more than schools encourage kids to try out straight sex. Where are you getting this crap?
 
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Henrin said:
I didn't even read your link. I don't read biased garbage.
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Why doesn't that surprise me? If you didn't read the link then you are still posting from a position of ignorance. Not an unusual thing for you.
 
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Wiggen said:
Why doesn't that surprise me? If you didn't read the link then you are still posting from a position of ignorance. Not an unusual thing for you.
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You could just provide a link I have a reason to read. :shrug:
 
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roguenuke said:
Many married opposite sex partners cannot procreate. There could be many reasons. One or both are infertile. One or both had their "plumbing" fixed to prevent procreation. One or both don't have all the necessary equipment for procreation. The two of them together make procreation so highly unlikely that procreation would be near impossible (although separately they actually might have higher chances of procreating). Perhaps one or both have a high risk of genetic problems so they choose to specifically prevent procreation. Or perhaps it is neither of them want children. It doesn't matter because neither the ability nor desire to procreate is a requirement of marriage in the US, at all.
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Once more they are the exception and not the rule. There should be no fertility test just as their should be no test for sexual preferences or for love.

Again the states reason for supporting marriage is in case they have children it is not a prerequisite
 
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Penrod said:
No you are telling me to like it just the same as a heterosexual marriage. That it is a perfectly acceptable normal life style.
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It IS a perfectly acceptable normal life style. Whether you like it or not, thats up to you. No one is telling you that you have to like it.
 
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Penrod said:
Teaching them it is fine is encouraging them to try it out. Heck its perfectly normal right?
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A new level of dumbness and bigotry. Congratulations!:applaud
 
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Henrin said:
You could just provide a link I have a reason to read. :shrug:
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Sorry, my taste doesn't run to Stormfront.
 
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disneydude said:
No school encourages kids to try out gay sex any more than schools encourage kids to try out straight sex. Where are you getting this crap?
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I didnt say they encouraged anyone to have sex. I said they teach being gay is perfectly fine and normal

Where are you getting this crap from?
 
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Penrod said:
They can also be Bisexual

These days even the schools are turning them gay. Making it acceptable instead of frowned upon. Removing the social stigma

So tell me are the members of NAMBLA gay or pedophiles or both?
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No one "turns" anyone gay. Being gay isn't something a person becomes from exposure.

And NAMBLA are mainly pedophiles, with some ephebophiles. Whatever adult sexuality they may or may not have doesn't matter. They are attracted to a person's age, which prevents them from establishing healthy, longterm relationships with those they are attracted to when it comes to that characteristic due to the very nature of the attraction (people grow older).
 
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Wiggen said:
Sorry, my taste doesn't run to Stormfront.
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Neither does mine, but it would be nice if you didn't link to a liberal pile of crap to support your argument.
 
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Penrod said:
I didnt say they encouraged anyone to have sex. I said they teach being gay is perfectly fine and normalWhere are you getting this crap from?
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It is perfectly fine and normal.....and go back and read your own post. That absolutely was what you were claiming.
 
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Wiggen said:
A new level of dumbness and bigotry. Congratulations!:applaud
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This post is against forum rules.
 
Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

Wiggen said:
A new level of dumbness and bigotry. Congratulations!:applaud
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The bigotry is all yours. You proved it with the first sentence


And the dumbness as well
 
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Wiggen said:
Sorry, my taste doesn't run to Stormfront.
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Now you are simply derailing the thread.
 
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disneydude said:
It IS a perfectly acceptable normal life style. Whether you like it or not, thats up to you. No one is telling you that you have to like it.
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Says you . Im not saying you have to agree with me. Im not telling you you have to like what i say

It used to be and IMHO still is a mental disease ,
 
Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

Penrod said:
Once more they are the exception and not the rule. There should be no fertility test just as their should be no test for sexual preferences or for love.

Again the states reason for supporting marriage is in case they have children it is not a prerequisite
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No. They are part of the whole. It doesn't matter how few can or cannot do it. Of course, given the fact that 10.9% of women are infertile, and many more become infertile or unable to have children for one reason or another during their life (including most prior to their death), this means that many more opposite sex couples would be unable to have children when getting married than all same sex couples put together. This wouldn't even include infertile men or those couples that simply choose to be childless their whole marriage.

And you are wrong about why the state supports marriage. That may be a minor reason, but it is not the main reason, at least not in these modern times. We do not live in the 1600s, the 1800s, nor even the 1950s. Many marriages do not include children, and this is more and more true every generation. Marriage serves many purposes and it is a right even to those who cannot have children.
 
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24107 said:
Now you are simply derailing the thread.
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He just tried to prove someone loved the Nazis by linking to a liberal pile of crap source and is mad I wouldn't read it. Well, if he pointed to fox news I wouldn't read it either, so yeah, whatever. He might be right, he might wrong, but honestly, I don't care, and I refuse to read obviously biased filth. Really, his whole argument was a strawman, so it's not like matters anyway.
 
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disneydude said:
If there was a big discrepancy in the number of gay kids who were brought up in gay households, I certainly think it would warrant further study But the reality is, there isn't, so its a moot point..
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Is there a little discrepancy? What are the numbers?

If kids were gay because they were taught to be gay by their parents, how would you explain the numbers of gay kids that grew up in a straight household?
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Okay .. first, 1 is a number and 2 is a number but 1 does not equal 2. ....
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In any event, if a person's life environment can't influence whether they participate in homosexual activities how do you explain the "discrepancy" of homosexual activity in prisons?
 
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roguenuke said:
No one "turns" anyone gay. Being gay isn't something a person becomes from exposure.
And NAMBLA are mainly pedophiles, with some ephebophiles. Whatever adult sexuality they may or may not have doesn't matter. They are attracted to a person's age, which prevents them from establishing healthy, longterm relationships with those they are attracted to when it comes to that characteristic due to the very nature of the attraction (people grow older).
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Not for all but it is to some. People can think they are gay or convinced of it.

And Nambla is just as much homosexuals as pedophiles. The ones im speaking of are only attracted to young boys. Its their sex as much as their age that attracts them
 
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Penrod said:
No you are telling me to like it just the same as a heterosexual marriage. That it is a perfectly acceptable normal life style.
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as far as rights are concerned it is
the rest dont matter
 
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