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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Those same things can be done with adoption, surrogates, invitro.
    No, I'm sorry, it can't. Those are options, for sure, but they are hardly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah, and there was no social engineering about anti-discrimination laws and just in general other races and people when I was going to school either. Tell me another one. I will just ignore everything to believe you, promise.
    Something tells me you ignore most facts you're exposed to anyway

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What dynamic does a mother bring to a family that a father doesn't?
    A female one.

    What dynamic does a father bring to a family that a mother doesn't?
    A male one

    Seriously, dude....you have extremely out-dated views that are supported more by myths than facts.
    and every piece of social science that we have regarding (for example) the critical importance of positive male role models in the raising of children, which the President is good enough to recognize and support with his new My Brothers' Keeper Initiative.

    Do you REALLY believe that marriage is only about "playing with the opposite sexes genitals"? Wow.....that is truly sad. Genitals don't make a marriage....I hate to break it to ya.
    Neither does "being really good friends" or even "loving one another".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Really?

    Would you rather be rescued from a burning building by the average male firefighter, or the average female? You don't believe in maternal instincts of a woman? You don't recognize the strength and protective comfort provided by a traditional father? You genuinely think men and women are the same?

    I can't debate water if you won't recognize it's wet.
    LOL....if I were being rescued from a burning building, the genitals of the firefighter would be the last thing from my mind. Then again, I put a lot less emphasis on genitals than you obviously do. As for the rest of your post, I don't think that men or women have any innate instincts that are all that different from the other. I think men and women can both be nurturing....then again...you obviously live in a world where the man is the breadwinner that goes off to work everyday...and women should be in the home making it comforable for their man and remain barefoot and pregnant. Sorry....but that just isn't how the world operates any more.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    A female one.



    A male one



    and every piece of social science that we have regarding (for example) the critical importance of positive male role models in the raising of children, which the President is good enough to recognize and support with his new My Brothers' Keeper Initiative.



    Neither does "being really good friends" or even "loving one another".
    Yet another example of a conservative that cannot answer the question. The reality is....you guys cannot see beyond the sexual organs...and when pressed have no answer to what specifically a male or a female bring to a relationship or a family.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....if I were being rescued from a burning building, the genitals of the firefighter would be the last thing from my mind. Then again, I put a lot less emphasis on genitals than you obviously do. As for the rest of your post, I don't think that men or women have any innate instincts that are all that different from the other. I think men and women can both be nurturing....then again...you obviously live in a world where the man is the breadwinner that goes off to work everyday...and women should be in the home making it comforable for their man and remain barefoot and pregnant. Sorry....but that just isn't how the world operates any more.
    Wild strawman. I said absolutely none of that, but I'll answer the first question for you. You'd rather be lifted up and carried out of that burning building than grabbed by your ankles and dragged so you head hit every step on the way down.

    My wife and I both work, but we don't lose the dynamics of the father-mother-husband-wife relationship at home. She doesn't crack my beer for me or knit all of our clothes for us.

    Here's the whole problem. Not a single opinion, in the history of this or any other forum, has changed as a result of these "debate" exchanges. Not one. These exercises are a complete waste of all of our time. That's largely why your state wants to divide in to five separate new ones.

    So, what are we doing? This is pointlessly stupid.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Wild strawman. I said absolutely none of that, but I'll answer the first question for you. You'd rather be lifted up and carried out of that burning building than grabbed by your ankles and dragged so you head hit every step on the way down.

    My wife and I both work, but we don't lose the dynamics of the father-mother-husband-wife relationship at home. She doesn't crack my beer for me or knit all of our clothes for us.

    Here's the whole problem. Not a single opinion, in the history of this or any other forum, has changed as a result of these "debate" exchanges. Not one. These exercises are a complete waste of all of our time. That's largely why your state wants to divide in to five separate new ones.

    So, what are we doing? This is pointlessly stupid.
    What then, exactly, are the dynamics of the father-mother-husband-wife relationsip at home that are vastly different than a gay marriage/gay family?
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by theaterofdreams View Post
    Something tells me you ignore most facts you're exposed to anyway
    There is no reason to think it is a fact considering the biological differences that are known. As it stands, the study in question goes in direct opposition to everything else known. Either I agree with the study and just ignore everything else, or I go with what makes the most sense. I don't think it makes much sense to ignore 99.9% of known science on the topic because one study comes out.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    I'm starting to think the main problem is that you need them to be different and/or below you. You've probably spent most of your adult life looking down at them, and refuse to see their way of life as anything close to or equal to your own.
    Funny how you look down on him, because he has differant views than your own. How ironic.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Contrary to what you lefties say this is far from a done deal. Now even in some schools so called transexuals male are alone to use the girls bathroom. My grandchildren will never attend a school that allows that..Call me a bigot or homophobe whatever you want but that will never happen and you can take that to the bank.
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