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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    America is so backwards on gay/lesbian treatment (by most western standards).

    Just a quick hop across the border to Canada shows this (plus how ridiculously backwards America still is over 'race').

    America will grow up (on both)...eventually.

    The nation as a whole will eventually realize that there is nothing wrong with adult, consensual homosexuality and that 'they' should have the exact same rights as 'straight' people (and that telling every one who will listen that you are not racist...means you are racist, IMO. People who truly are not racist don't even think about it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I implied that promoting homosexuality was wrong and requiring others to accept homosexuals was wrong.
    That is how you choose to see it. The teachers who bring the issue of gay folk into their classrooms don't see it as "promoting homosexuality" they see it as talking about the real world and teaching about inclusiveness and diversity. The whole "promoting homosexuality" mantra is a beautiful piece of social conservative rhetoric, but the way it takes shape is the denial that gay kids exist in classrooms or that some kids are raised by gay couples or that gay folk exist at all in the world and can be happy and functional people. That kind of denial is not healthy. You cannot promote reality, it just is. And trying to argue that teachers who teach their students basic principles like to be kind to those who are different are somehow out of of place is ridiculous as well. You can choose to see it how you want, but that is not how others see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    It's not a teachers position to be teaching children politics - teachers shouldn't be addressing the issue in public schools in the first place. Kids go to school to learn how to read, write and do math, learn history and science - NOT form conclusions on homosexuality or learn which way to lean politically... Telling kids what political ideas are right and wrong is stepping over the line and promoting certain fringe political ideas is stepping way over the line.

    I never said it was wrong to be gay either. I implied that promoting homosexuality was wrong and requiring others to accept homosexuals was wrong.
    how do you promote being gay its not a choice?

    so schools should not tell you to accept people who are gay they should just tell you not to harass people for it then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Policies promote homosexuality - you progressives promote homosexuality because you progressives are obsessed with homosexuality..... You promote it via your own obsessions with homosexuality, and the bus doesn't stop there either - you progressives are obsessed with all minorities and make an issue out of their differences....
    You cant promote homosexuality anymore than you can promote being black. People are born that way and dont 'infect' other people with it.

    And if people wouldnt EXCLUDE minorities, we wouldnt have to fight for them to have the same rights.....*we* dont make an issue out of their differences....conservatives and the extreme religious do....**THAT is the basis for their arguments.** Not anyone elses.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Policies promote homosexuality - you progressives promote homosexuality because you progressives are obsessed with homosexuality..... You promote it via your own obsessions with homosexuality, and the bus doesn't stop there either - you progressives are obsessed with all minorities and make an issue out of their differences....
    3.support or encourage something: to encourage the growth and development of something

    ah so supporting persecuted people is how their promoting it and that is worng...um why is that

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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That is how you choose to see it. The teachers who bring the issue of gay folk into their classrooms don't see it as "promoting homosexuality" they see it as talking about the real world and teaching about inclusiveness and diversity.
    That needs to be in the classroom why? As I mentioned earlier, there is no need to teach children about all the sorts of people in the world to teach them to be respectful towards others. It really doesn't matter what they think of this group or that group, and as long as the state is trying to influence those thoughts people will have a problem with it because it is a form of social engineering. All that really matters, and all that needs to be done, is to teach them to treat all people with respect no matter who they are.

    The whole "promoting homosexuality" mantra is a beautiful piece of social conservative rhetoric, but the way it takes shape is the denial that gay kids exist in classrooms or that some kids are raised by gay couples or that gay folk exist at all in the world and can be happy and functional people. That kind of denial is not healthy. You cannot promote reality, it just is. And trying to argue that teachers who teach their students basic principles like to be kind to those who are different are somehow out of of place is ridiculous as well. You can choose to see it how you want, but that is not how others see it.
    Then why wasn't this mentioned years ago? Isn't it interesting that as soon as gays pensioned the government the public schools started to teach such things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    You cant promote homosexuality anymore than you can promote being black. People are born that way and dont 'infect' other people with it.
    I enjoy how you keep making authoritative statements on the matter.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I enjoy how you keep making authoritative statements on the matter.
    I just repeat what the authorities say.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That needs to be in the classroom why? As I mentioned earlier, there is no need to teach children about all the sorts of people in the world to teach them to be respectful towards others. It really doesn't matter what they think of this group or that group, and as long as the state is trying to influence those thoughts people will have a problem with it because it is a form of social engineering. All that really matters, and all that needs to be done, is to teach them to treat all people with respect no matter who they are.



    Then why wasn't this mentioned years ago? Isn't it interesting that as soon as gays pensioned the government the public schools started to teach such things?
    teaching kids to treat people with respect is also social engineering but that sounds like the right kind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I just repeat what the authorities say.
    Sorry, but since what you said hasn't been proven, the authorities on the matter aren't say it.

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