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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post

    It doesnt really matter...you cant change it. As people have already pointed out, there are (and have been) gay families with their natural kids in them, and kids they have thru surrogates, in vitro, etc. That's not going to go away...the govt isnt going to come in and take their kids.

    There arent any serious studies that show any issues....and yet
    we DO know of the risks in single parent homes, or homes of divorced kids. And there is lots of abuses in the so-called traditional families...I'm pretty sure gays arent going to be dragging down their stats!
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    Ah ... so you allow for the risk of problems in single-parent or divorce or traditional homes but despite the very recent (relatively speaking) & statistically thin documentation of any possible effect on a child raised by gay parents, you're ready to declare THAT particular family characteristic to be totally benign.
    Pretty hasty conclusion.
    I'm assuming it's not agenda driven with you but I betcha it is with many others.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post

    Ah ... so you allow for the risk of problems in single-parent or divorce or traditional homes but despite the very recent (relatively speaking) & statistically thin documentation of any possible effect on a child raised by gay parents, you're ready to declare THAT particular family characteristic to be totally benign.
    Pretty hasty conclusion.
    I'm assuming it's not agenda driven with you but I betcha it is with many others.
    It's not totally benign anymore than the families with straight parents...THAT is the point. And the fact that *no greater or lesser harm* has been shown in any reputable studies.

    THere are screwed up families no matter what their orientation. Gay couples divorce too. Are you getting it yet? They really ARE NO DIFFERENT....for better or for worse.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

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    So why do you bring up procreation, anyway? What about it should affect my support for same-sex marriage?
    Good Lord, there are lots of posts with him doing so, Anthony60's just run out of arguments and is going with denial now.

    Ignore it....our counterarguments pretty much say it all.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It's not totally benign anymore than the families with straight parents...THAT is the point. And the fact that
    *no greater or lesser harm* has been shown in any reputable studies.
    There's that possible agenda driven component I was talking about
    THere are screwed up families no matter what their orientation. Gay couples divorce too.
    Ain't the point.
    Are you getting it yet?
    One of us isn't.

    They really ARE NO DIFFERENT....for better or for worse.
    Oh they're different all right. It's just that the effect hasn't developed enough of a history yet to give it an all-clear.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Gay families contain 2 parents...there is plenty of data showing the risks to kids in single parent homes and homes of divorce....but not for kids with gay parents. It's not a 'mish mash'...that just shows your socially damaging disrespect for gay people. The most important things for kids in ANY family are love and security and gays can provide that like anyone else.

    It certainly doesnt mean 'more welfare votes' since gays tend to have higher income levels, lol.
    Being misleading must be part of a liberals DNA. I guess you don't like the concept of a mother and a father. First you imply that I have some disrespect for gays, which you need to support by the false implication that I said gays can't love their children. Then followed up nicely by misquoting me on the very same page that contains what I posted.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Being misleading must be part of a liberals DNA. I guess you don't like the concept of a mother and a father. First you imply that I have some disrespect for gays, which you need to support by the false implication that I said gays can't love their children. Then followed up nicely by misquoting me on the very same page that contains what I posted.
    Feel free to show where I did so. It would be refreshing after all your denials.

    Perhaps it would be quicker if you could explain why you keep bringing up procreation and kids in a discussion about legalizing SSM if it's not relevant?
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Being misleading must be part of a liberals DNA. I guess you don't like the concept of a mother and a father. First you imply that I have some disrespect for gays, which you need to support by the false implication that I said gays can't love their children. Then followed up nicely by misquoting me on the very same page that contains what I posted.
    You suggest someone "doesn't like the concept of a mother and a father" and then immediately whine about false implications.

    Hypocrite.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
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    So you are basing your reticence to accept SSM based on 'what might happen down the line?'

    What part arent you getting? Gay families exist and will continue to do so....they wont go away if gay marriage isnt legalized. No 'agenda' is going to stop it. So it's not a rational reason to stop SSM....if anything, it provides more protection for their children under the law: inheritance, custody in a divorce, medical decisions, etc.

    So do you actually care about *the kids* or just want to discriminate against gays?
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Try to focus on the point ... the influence of a person's environment on their behavior was the [point.
    You sir are the one missing "the point" Behavior and sexual orientation are not the same thing. That is the point. A gay person may try for years to be straight and marry and engage in straight sex...all the while living a lie. Straight sex doesn't change the fact that they are gay any more than prisoners engaging in gay sex makes them gay. Get it?
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Feel free to show where I did so. It would be refreshing after all your denials.

    Perhaps it would be quicker if you could explain why you keep bringing up procreation and kids in a discussion about legalizing SSM if it's not relevant?
    You could easily read my posts for any information like that, if you think I "keep bringing up procreation and kids". Something bother you about that? Kids and marriage, what do they have to do with each other??? LOL!

    There's a little lesson for you on quoting people. As you can see, what I have in quotes is exactly what you posted. I didn't omit words or change anything around so that it would fit my argument, like you did.
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