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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    1.)It seems not. You can be both
    2.)Homosexuality is sexual attraction to people of the same gender. There is no age in the definition
    1.)never said you cant be both LOL
    i simply said they are separate things which they factually are

    2.) correct just like hetero sexuality is sexual attraction to opposite gender, very good
    correct meaning pedophilia has nothing to do with hetero/homo sexality

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    Not between the married same sex partners they do not.

    Well at least we agree there. Its funny that if you live with 2 women you are a stud but if you marry them your a criminal.
    So? How does that matter? Esp when millions of straight married couples have families filled with step-children, adopted children, children created thru surrogates, and no kids? How is it relevant? It's not relevant, not a critieria for straight couples to marry, so how can it be for gay couples?

    and like I said, I have no problem with polygamy...see no real reason to prevent it. My opinion of it doesnt matter at all and I wouldnt vote against it. That would be hypocritical.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    You sound pretty sure.
    Then your contention is that a person's development milieu or their life environment cannot possibly have any effect on whether or not they engage in homosexual practices.
    Is that correct?
    Lots of young people are curious and experiment. That doesnt really determine your sexual orientation, just your flexibility. A person is gay whether they ever have sex or not. But for hundreds of years, people have been marrying whether or not they were gay or not...they didnt have any choice because of social pressures and in some cases the possibility of death. DIdnt make them 'not gay.'
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Lots of young people are curious and experiment. That doesnt really determine your sexual orientation, just your flexibility. A person is gay whether they ever have sex or not. But for hundreds of years, people have been marrying whether or not they were gay or not...they didnt have any choice because of social pressures and in some cases the possibility of death. DIdnt make them 'not gay.'
    Yes, and it did not make them, their wives or children very happy. They were living a life they did not belong in. They were not straight and they were "playing" the faithful heterosexual husband for their wives, children and the world around them. They were living a farce in which there were seldom winners but much more often nothing but losers.

    Their wives were the talk of the town, "how did she not know he was gay". Their children were the laughing stock of the schools "ha ha, your daddy is a queer" and often the men were also burdened with the knowledge that they destroyed a lot of lives in the process of liberating himself from his fake life.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post

    and like I said, I have no problem with polygamy...see no real reason to prevent it. My opinion of it doesnt matter at all and I wouldnt vote against it. That would be hypocritical.
    exactly. you buy into gay marriage then you must also, by the same argument accept polygamy(and whatever lies beyond). You really find it THAT hard to believe many, many people aren't willing to jump on board with your "hippie commune" future? Changing a society FOUNDED on certain social institutions and simply throwing them into the trash bin isn't just wrong, it's dangerous.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    He ignores that essentially they are unsure on the question at all. There was some studies on hormonal influences, but all them are flawed in one way or another. There was some studies on genetic influences, but all them appear to be influenced by ideology. Lastly, there was studies on environmental influences, but to my understanding there is no sure answer one way or another on the matter. Really, the entire field of study is rather untouched and needs further study and better work done on it to really know the answer.
    And you ignore:

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    We dont know what causes brain tumors or MS or stars to form or how birds all perform flying in sync (chorus line effect) or how monarch butterflies all know to migrate en masse to Mexico....but they are all real and we know they exist.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    They can also be Bisexual

    These days even the schools are turning them gay. Making it acceptable instead of frowned upon. Removing the social stigma

    So tell me are the members of NAMBLA gay or pedophiles or both?
    They are teaching acceptance...to provide a more conducive learning environment. What does it serve to punish the children of gays? To *create or encourage* social stigma among children?

    It's about 'including' people, rather than 'excluding' them.

    Over the generations schools have had to make efforts to include bastards. And then to include the children of divorce, of broken homes. All of those things carried social stigmas in the past...and it damaged the kids and it created a poor, insecure learning environment.

    "Inclusion" is not promotion. No one has ever promoted divorce.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    exactly. you buy into gay marriage then you must also, by the same argument accept polygamy(and whatever lies beyond). You really find it THAT hard to believe many, many people aren't willing to jump on board with your "hippie commune" future? Changing a society FOUNDED on certain social institutions and simply throwing them into the trash bin isn't just wrong, it's dangerous.
    I have no problem with polygamy. (It has no appeal for me at all but who cares, it's not about my 'opinion.') What is your objection? What is the danger you see?
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    exactly. you buy into gay marriage then you must also, by the same argument accept polygamy(and whatever lies beyond). You really find it THAT hard to believe many, many people aren't willing to jump on board with your "hippie commune" future? Changing a society FOUNDED on certain social institutions and simply throwing them into the trash bin isn't just wrong, it's dangerous.
    Except you really aren't changing what a society is founded on. The vast majority won't 'be hippies', like they won't marry outside their race, it is not rocking the foundation of society. Polygamy won't shatter the fabric of our society, gays having equal status through marriage in courts and benefits won't rend society.

    You make both arguments, most won't engage in the hippy commune but somehow it will throw certain social institutions into the trash bin...

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    No you are telling me to like it just the same as a heterosexual marriage. .
    How is it any different? Besides sex (and not even that because many straight couples do ALL those things)....so, how is it different?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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