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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    yes it is retarded to say that's a special right discriminating against a couple based on gender when a persons gender has no bearing on the requirements of marriage is senseless

    yes it is retorted to limit gay people to marriage with someone of the other gender as they don't want it and don't have the choice of marriage to the consenting unclosely related adult adult of their choice

    yes it is retarded to use the same kind of argument a racist would use against interracial marriage to say that gay marriage is retarded

    The right to marry someone of a different race. I don't have it nor do i want it. Its retarded.
    But it does have a bearing according to the law.

    Im so sick of this comparing it to racial discrimination.

    Civil Rights Activist: ‘No Comparison’ Between Civil Rights, Gay Rights Movement - See more at: Civil Rights Activist:

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    CNSNews.com) – Civil rights activist Rev. William Owens, who is founder and president of the Coalition of African-American Pastors, said Tuesday there is no comparison between the civil rights movement and the gay community’s fight for same-sex marriage.

    “I marched and many other thousands of people marched in this same location years ago on the claim that we were being discriminated against, and today the other community is trying to say that they are suffering the same thing that we suffered, but I tell you they are not,” said Owens, who gathered on the National Mall with other traditional marriage supporters in favor of the Defense of Marriage Act.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    They want to make children? The main reason for marriage is so the state knows who owns what. Not so two people who supposedly love each other can live together for benefits
    Why not allow polygamy? Why cant I marry a pig? And dont tell me because it cant consent. It doesnt consent when I eat bacon. It wont hurt anyone if i do.
    you can assign property in a gay marriage like you could for a hetero sexual one

    marriage to a pig or to multiple people is not exactly like some hetero sexual marriages that we allow homosexual marriages are

    you cant scare people away from gay marriage by running out of reasons to objecting to it and then pretending your not able to find any reasons to object to something else

    its like your saying, O no! I=If we have gay marriage we must allow these other things, because I cant come up with a sensible reason to stop them either. Gosh we gots to ban the gay marriage now![/QUOTE]

    No i cant and neither can you. Being gay is a deviant sex act if you participate in it. Just like banging a sheep/ Even christians dont believe being gay is a sin. But having sex with a man or woman without the benefit of marriage is a sin. In fact Catholics are taught that the only reason they can have sex is to procreate.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    gay couples fit the laws they meet every requirement you have for a hetero sexual couple 2 people not to closely related can give legal consent to the marriage

    its obvious reproductive potential is not an issue when theirs no requirement to have kids or to be able to have kids of your own

    you don't even have to stick a penis into a vagina so

    everything you need to do they can do as well
    Except thats not the law says in most states and you know it.

    Its obvious potential is the reason. That does not mean that if a couple is infertile they cant get married as they fit the letter of the law as written. They are the exception not the rule

    They can not have children

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    their people under the protraction of the 14 amendment

    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
    Again not ratified properly and what does thqt have to do with anything/. They are not depriving anyone of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor denying it to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws

    Many think this amendment makes anyone born in the US a citizen. But if you read it carefully it says no such thing

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    But it does have a bearing according to the law.

    Im so sick of this comparing it to racial discrimination.

    Civil Rights Activist: ‘No Comparison’ Between Civil Rights, Gay Rights Movement - See more at: Civil Rights Activist:

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    And the thing you fail to realize is the point of the law that has a bearing is exactly what is being challenged as to why it is there. There is no bearing in how the law functions when it comes to sex/gender and being a spouse.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    Except thats not the law says in most states and you know it.

    Its obvious potential is the reason. That does not mean that if a couple is infertile they cant get married as they fit the letter of the law as written. They are the exception not the rule

    They can not have children
    Having children or having the ability between two people getting married to have children is not a requirement to marriage. That is your excuse to deny same sex couples marriage. Nothing more. There is no necessity within US marriage laws to be able to have children or even to want to have/raise children at all. In fact, we have some laws in some states that deny certain couples the right to marry only if they can have children with each other.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    But it does have a bearing according to the law.

    Im so sick of this comparing it to racial discrimination.

    Civil Rights Activist: ‘No Comparison’ Between Civil Rights, Gay Rights Movement - See more at: Civil Rights Activist:

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    There is a difference in Comparing and Equating. Any two or more things can be compared. Not all things can be equated.


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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    you can assign property in a gay marriage like you could for a hetero sexual one

    marriage to a pig or to multiple people is not exactly like some hetero sexual marriages that we allow homosexual marriages are

    you cant scare people away from gay marriage by running out of reasons to objecting to it and then pretending your not able to find any reasons to object to something else

    its like your saying, O no! I=If we have gay marriage we must allow these other things, because I cant come up with a sensible reason to stop them either. Gosh we gots to ban the gay marriage now!
    No i cant and neither can you. Being gay is a deviant sex act if you participate in it. Just like banging a sheep/ Even christians dont believe being gay is a sin. But having sex with a man or woman without the benefit of marriage is a sin. In fact Catholics are taught that the only reason they can have sex is to procreate.[/QUOTE]

    sex between consenting adults and religion have no impact on who can or can't get married

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    Thats impossible

    Because they dont fit the states definition of marriage. And again i dont want anyone getting benefits for being married

    So polygamy means one man and many women? Thats not the only way. How about 1 woman with many husbands?
    Yes you should try some logic.
    Any argument for polygamy exists now, without same sex marriage being legal across the US or any ruling saying sex/gender limitations on marriage are unconstitutional. The two factors used in restricting marriage have different arguments for why they are in place and why they should be removed (particularly though why they are in place/further a legitimate state interest). Limiting the number of people in a contract like marriage can be shown to further a legitimate state interest, but restricting the gender/sex combinations of marriages furthers no legitimate state interest.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    Except thats not the law says in most states and you know it.

    Its obvious potential is the reason. That does not mean that if a couple is infertile they cant get married as they fit the letter of the law as written. They are the exception not the rule

    They can not have children
    if you let people with no potential to breed marry its obvious the rule is not a rule and not applied equally

    and children raised by gay couples would benefit from a legal marriage as much as any other children

    so no its not obvious potential have kids is a reason to let some one get married when you don't let parents get married and don't require the married to have kids or to be able to do so

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