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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    We have really no idea what causes it, so any attempts by either side to scream "I'm right" are without any merit. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with either of you, but just that, you're both speaking out of your ass.
    We dont know what causes brain tumors or MS or stars to form or how birds all perform flying in sync (chorus line effect) or how monarch butterflies all know to migrate en masse to Mexico....but they are all real and exist.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    We dont know what causes brain tumors or MS or stars to form or how birds all perform flying in sync (chorus line effect) or how monarch butterflies all know to migrate en masse to Mexico....but they are all real and exist.
    Thanks for the non sequitur.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I did read what you had to say. Anyway...are we done here?
    If you cant support your hypocritical argument, then I guess we are.

    It wasnt about the right to adopt...it was about your 'boo hooing' gays right to marry and I pointed out I could as easily not give a crap and laugh at men not getting treated fairly in family court...an *EXAMPLE.* You dont give a crap about gay rights, others may not give a crap about men's rights. Oh well.....
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Entirely separate issue. Completely.

    Gay is not a race. It's not a religion. It's not a nationality. It is a genetic mutation or a chosen behavior, take your pick.

    It is an insult to compare it to people who've truly been denied basic human rights, which this does not qualify. This is a trumped-up political movement designed to win elections and grandstand.

    Civil unions have long existed, and there's been nothing preventing gays from committing to spend their lives together, or anything. I think EVERYONE pretty much supports legal change allowing them to have healthcare rights of determination, property considerations, etc, but the rest of this is just TV reality show fodder.

    Again, I don't really care that much, and neither do most heterosexuals. We just find it silly, like when my kids go nuts for One Direction or something.
    It's also not a choice. We recognize religion and that IS a choice. So much for your yo yo examples.

    They are adult AMERICANS as as such deserve the same benefits and privileges as other Americans under the same contract. They are denied thru gender discrimination. That has been explained to you a few times.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Thanks for the non sequitur.
    You really cannot connect the dots can you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    We have really no idea what causes it, so any attempts by either side to scream "I'm right" are without any merit. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with either of you, but just that, you're both speaking out of your ass.
    Your implied claim was that SSM isnt even worth bothering with because you dont know what causes sexual orientation. As if it doesnt exist even tho you dont know what causes it, lololol. So I gave you examples of things that 'exist' and we cant necessarily explain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa
    We dont know what causes brain tumors or MS or stars to form or how birds all perform flying in sync (chorus line effect) or how monarch butterflies all know to migrate en masse to Mexico....but they are all real and exist.
    Good Lord, do we need to stick to words of one syllable for you?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Marriage is about faith, family, and children. Always has been, always will be.

    Doesn't mean you have to have kids and or believe in God, but there really isn't a lot of point to it otherwise. Just live together. I realize some couples can't, or decide not to, have children, but that is far the exception.

    I consider very few marriages to actually be marriages anyway. People these days rarely take it seriously for all that it implies.
    Cool. Aside from your personal opinions of most marriages....how about the hypocrisy of all the fornicators and adulterers that are allowed to marry? Religious people werent all up in arms trying to prevent that and the Bible puts those sins at the same level as 'laying with a man,' no better, no worse.

    Or how about all the felons...in jail allowed to marry? Or the people of different faiths and NO faith? All allowed to marry.

    Gays have kids, gays have families...naturally, and by adoption. Lots of straight married couples CHOOSE to do neither.

    So...tell me again why gays should be excluded without looking like a hypocrite.

    It's not about the "composition" of the marriage to the state....as you said, it means many things to many people. It's ABOUT a legal contract with benefits and privileges that ALL these others...felons, atheists, child-free couples...GET to have and gays are still denied. For no good reason that I have seen.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I'm not threatened. Why in the world would I be threatened by gay people? LOL

    I just don't take it seriously. Not out of anger or disgust, just out of being naturally dismissive of it all. It's silly, and I'm not much for silliness most of the time.
    btw, I do see this a civil rights issue.

    I'm not gay. We didnt care about getting married and chose not to have kids. Marriage is not a big deal to me at all. As a matter of fact, I believe the state and fed govts should stay out of it completely. But that's not going to happen.

    So then I believe in being fair and treating other human beings equably. This is a civil rights issue and I dont want people looking back at my generation some day and the most generous thing they can say on this issue is, 'they were ignorant,' just like we do of the previous generations that treated blacks and women as 2nd class citizens.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Lots of straight married couples dont have kids. So I guess they are the same as gay couples.
    Lots of them don't have kids, and barring a health problem, that is a choice that is made in their marriage. Gay couples, no choice. Sounds different to me, but I am able to comprehend facts, I am not a liberal. But oh, it just would feel so good if a gay man could conceive a child! But, in that case, we wouldn't be having this discussion. That's Fantasy Island.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Lots of them don't have kids, and barring a health problem, that is a choice that is made in their marriage. Gay couples, no choice. Sounds different to me, but I am able to comprehend facts, I am not a liberal. But oh, it just would feel so good if a gay man could conceive a child! But, in that case, we wouldn't be having this discussion. That's Fantasy Island.
    LOL....you have no idea. There are many gay men and women who have their own biological children. That may surprise you, but it happens all the time. I'll leave it to you to figure out the details. I'm sure with some thought you can figure it out.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    The right to marry someone of the same sex. I dont have it nor do i want it. Its retarded.
    yes it is retarded to say that's a special right discriminating against a couple based on gender when a persons gender has no bearing on the requirements of marriage is senseless

    yes it is retorted to limit gay people to marriage with someone of the other gender as they don't want it and don't have the choice of marriage to the consenting unclosely related adult adult of their choice

    yes it is retarded to use the same kind of argument a racist would use against interracial marriage to say that gay marriage is retarded

    The right to marry someone of a different race. I don't have it nor do i want it. Its retarded.

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