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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    We have really no idea what causes it, so any attempts by either side to scream "I'm right" are without any merit. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with either of you, but just that, you're both speaking out of your ass.
    It is pretty widely recognized that gay parents don't make kids gay or straight parents make kids straight. Gay kids come from straight parents and straight kids come from gay parents....its ludicrous to believe that because a girl raised by gay mothers happens to be gay....that they made her that way. In 2014....its shocking to believe that some people still want to spout that propoganda out.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It is pretty widely recognized that gay parents don't make kids gay or straight parents make kids straight. Gay kids come from straight parents and straight kids come from gay parents....its ludicrous to believe that because a girl raised by gay mothers happens to be gay....that they made her that way. In 2014....its shocking to believe that some people still want to spout that propoganda out.
    All you are describing is opinion of people, and then claiming it is the majority of opinion and therefore right. Majority opinion never means it is right or wrong, but just that the majority think a certain way. I'm not saying it is wrong, but just that it has nothing to back it up with.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    No, continue on with your little forum circle jerk. That's the MO around here.

    I don't need distorted semantics to tell me what marriage is, and has been, for 5,000 years.
    That's what racists said when interracial couples wanted to marry in Virginia.

    Yeah....we keep repeating it because it's an excellent analogy.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Guns, is that what you want to misdirect to? Now, how many pregnancies do you know of in gay marriages, which you have stated are "exactly" the same as normal marriage? No need to answer, since you either won't or you'll come up with some non answer, we know it is zero. So admit it, they are not the same.
    Lots of straight married couples dont have kids. So I guess they are the same as gay couples.

    And the gay couples that DID have kids or used surrogates or adopted....they're just like straight couples, right?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    That's what racists said when interracial couples wanted to marry in Virginia.

    Yeah....we keep repeating it because it's an excellent analogy.
    Entirely separate issue. Completely.

    Gay is not a race. It's not a religion. It's not a nationality. It is a genetic mutation or a chosen behavior, take your pick.

    It is an insult to compare it to people who've truly been denied basic human rights, which this does not qualify. This is a trumped-up political movement designed to win elections and grandstand.

    Civil unions have long existed, and there's been nothing preventing gays from committing to spend their lives together, or anything. I think EVERYONE pretty much supports legal change allowing them to have healthcare rights of determination, property considerations, etc, but the rest of this is just TV reality show fodder.

    Again, I don't really care that much, and neither do most heterosexuals. We just find it silly, like when my kids go nuts for One Direction or something.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    All you are describing is opinion of people, and then claiming it is the majority of opinion and therefore right. Majority opinion never means it is right or wrong, but just that the majority think a certain way. I'm not saying it is wrong, but just that it has nothing to back it up with.
    The problem is....it just plays into the scare tactics/propoganda that "Oh my god....you can't let gay people adopt kids because they were turn them gay" and the notion that gays are pedophiles that are out to "recruit" kids. The reality is, look at statistics of gay parents raising kids and how many turn out to be gay. The numbers are consistent with the numbers of straight couples raising kids that turn out to be gay. The ludicrous idea that gay parents turn kids gay is simply not supported by the facts.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Entirely separate issue. Completely.

    Gay is not a race. It's not a religion. It's not a nationality. It is a genetic mutation or a chosen behavior, take your pick.

    It is an insult to compare it to people who've truly been denied basic human rights, which this does not qualify. This is a trumped-up political movement designed to win elections and grandstand.

    Civil unions have long existed, and there's been nothing preventing gays from committing to spend their lives together, or anything. I think EVERYONE pretty much supports legal change allowing them to have healthcare rights of determination, property considerations, etc, but the rest of this is just TV reality show fodder.

    Again, I don't really care that much, and neither do most heterosexuals. We just find it silly, like when my kids go nuts for One Direction or something.
    The problem is...you don't want to accept the reality that gay marriages are on par with straight marriages. Why are you threatened by that. THAT is the real question.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    About 5%.
    Yup, and the same for straight couples that end up with adopted gay kids.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Lots of straight married couples dont have kids. So I guess they are the same as gay couples.

    And the gay couples that DID have kids or used surrogates or adopted....they're just like straight couples, right?
    Marriage is about faith, family, and children. Always has been, always will be.

    Doesn't mean you have to have kids and or believe in God, but there really isn't a lot of point to it otherwise. Just live together. I realize some couples can't, or decide not to, have children, but that is far the exception.

    I consider very few marriages to actually be marriages anyway. People these days rarely take it seriously for all that it implies.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The problem is...you don't want to accept the reality that gay marriages are on par with straight marriages. Why are you threatened by that. THAT is the real question.
    I'm not threatened. Why in the world would I be threatened by gay people? LOL

    I just don't take it seriously. Not out of anger or disgust, just out of being naturally dismissive of it all. It's silly, and I'm not much for silliness most of the time.

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