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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It might be for you, because you certainly don't seem to want to actually respond to points people make.
    What points are those?

    Isn't that what disneydude has been saying this entire time when he says things like how society won't listen to peoples opinion anymore?

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What points are those?

    Isn't that what disneydude has been saying this entire time when he says things like how society won't listen to peoples opinion anymore?
    Are evangelical Christians social engineering when they try to convince me same-sex marriage should be illegal?
    Should infertile couples be allowed to marry? If procreation is integral to marriage, I mean. If procreation isn't integral to marriage, why would anyone bring it up in this discussion?
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Are evangelical Christians social engineering when they try to convince me same-sex marriage should be illegal?
    Don't care.

    Should infertile couples be allowed to marry? If procreation is integral to marriage, I mean. If procreation isn't integral to marriage, why would anyone bring it up in this discussion?
    Don't care about any of that either.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    Not according to the constitution it is not.
    Hold on. So you've just spent a good portion of the thread attempting to use the SCOTUS and their not having ruled on marriage yet as justification for your beleif that the current laws aren't constitutional.

    NOW you're suggesting SCOTUs isn't the final arbiter of whether a law is or isn't constitutional?

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You dodge virtually every question I ask of you.

    And it's related. If procreation is integral to marriage, why aren't you trying to ban infertile couples from marrying?

    If procreation isn't integral to marriage, why bother bringing it up?
    I'm not dodging anything, we haven't resolved my question yet. Don't expect me to answer you questions until you answer mine. Or go away, as this is not an important issue so it's not worth a lot of time.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa
    Nothing. They only want the exact same thing as other married couples. So most of us would like to know what the big deal is...why there are objections. Nothing special about it.

    What is 'unequal' about it?
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    They want to make children? The main reason for marriage is so the state knows who owns what. Not so two people who supposedly love each other can live together for benefits
    Why not allow polygamy? Why cant I marry a pig? And dont tell me because it cant consent. It doesnt consent when I eat bacon. It wont hurt anyone if i do.
    They want to have families...and yes, some choose to have kids, others choose surrogates, some choose adoption.

    But why arent they entitled to the same benefits as other married couples?

    And polygamy is fine with me, I think it's dumb for women, but who cares. As for getting a pig to sign a contract...let me know when that's possible and we'll discuss you marrying one.

    Again....let's stick to the rational, logical here, if you can.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Spouting? If that's all you were exposed to growing up, do you think it would influence you at all?

    Here's an analogy I'm sure you'll like ...

    I wouldn't call cannibalism natural for humans at this stage in human history, would you?
    But if you were raised by cannibals somewhere, let's say, in Kenya, do you think you'd feel differently?

    If you think your upbringing might not make you do things you'd otherwise not do then you're wildly mistaken.
    Sorry. Gay parents don't make kids gay. Straight parents don't make kids straight. Its a ridiculous notion that isn't even worth spending the 20 seconds I've taken to write this post.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Libertarians are not supporters of Egalitarianism, so of course these talks of equality rings hollow to anyone like myself. We might agree with equality under the law and equal protection of rights, but equality in the social sphere outside of that limited scope has really no starting point with people like myself. I have no problem with civil rights if we define under it's original meaning and purpose, but I do not support it being defined in such a way where people are called into duty for other people.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What points are those?

    Isn't that what disneydude has been saying this entire time when he says things like how society won't listen to peoples opinion anymore?
    While in America, people are free to have their own opinions, there are some opinions that are just so bigoted, racist, etc...that society disdains so much that although the person is still free to espouse them, they rarely will due to fear of public rebuke. Racist slurs are one example, outdated views about inter-racial marriage is another one. Sone bigoted statements about same sex marriage will join the list.

    It isn't that soceity "won't listen to people's opinions anymore". Its that society won't tolerate certain hateful and bigoted views without exposing the bigot to consequences.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It is NOTHING like interracial marriage. Stop trying to paint and equate yourself as some sort of long-mistreated race of people that has endured struggles through history. It's dumb and illogical. You're just guys that prefer sex with other guys. That's it. You've never been forced to do hard labor or refused access to a university or disallowed from using a public bathroom.
    You mean, being beaten to death, denied housing and jobs, denied being at the bedside of a loved one that is dying, that kind of silly thing?

    It's not a preference...many gays would PREFER not to be gay, mostly because they grow up in a society that tells them they are like dog****. Yeah....that's real nice too.

    How would you feel if you were denied the same benefits and priviliges accorded to marriage by the state & feds because of your gender? That is exactly what this is, gender discrimination, the state not allowing people of the same gender to enter into a specific contract.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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