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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    Let anyone marry anyone and anything they like. It wont effect me. If your going to do it go all the way.
    2005 is calling. It wants its anti-ssm arguments back. I've already addressed this silly slippery slope argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Thank you for your opinion. As it's not an actual argument, however, you've given me nothing to respond to.
    Perfectly fine.

    Know this. No one, ever, in the history of this forum or any other, has ever changed their opinion based on these meaningless exchanges on the internet anyway. And my side of this has few that care to even bother, while your side pretty much lives on these sites 24/7. I'm in unfriendly territory every time I peak into this digitally socialist baby shower of a chat room.

    We're all just practicing our typing skills and refining our grammatical prowess. Nothing more.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    still nothing huh?
    please let us know when you have ANY facts that support your failed claims, heck let us know when you have ONE fact that supports your failed claim. We'd love to tread it, thank you.
    Yawn.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That target hasn't been defined yet, we'll see.
    And it hasn't been defined yet if gay people are all secretly lizard people.

    We'll see...

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Um, I get that from our marriage laws.

    Marriage laws currently allow a man to enter into a legal contract with a woman and become married to her.

    This is something, legally, a woman is unable to do. She can't enter into a legal contract with a woman and become married to her.

    This is a contractual, under the law, that a man is able to do that a women is prohibited from doing.

    At best, it's "seperate but equal", which has been established to be an unconstitutional method of attepmting to circumvent equal protection.

    A man can marry a woman and a woman can marry a man . Both have the right to marry a person of the opposite sex

    Men and women are inherently separate but equal

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Perfectly fine.

    Know this. No one, ever, in the history of this forum or any other, has ever changed their opinion based on these meaningless exchanges on the internet anyway.
    I have, when it's been demonstrated to me that my opinions couldn't be supported by a good argument. So that's one, at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    And my side of this has few that care to even bother, while your side pretty much lives on these sites 24/7. I'm in unfriendly territory every time I peak into this digitally socialist baby shower of a chat room.

    We're all just practicing our typing skills and refining our grammatical prowess. Nothing more.
    Persecution complex, nothing more.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    They have the same rights under the current laws as everyone else.
    Ridiculous. Every McDonald's customer is not a murderer.
    Can I leave my property to my dog? Sure i can.
    No, you can't. You can leave your property to a human being in a trust to be used to take care of the dog. The dog does not actually own the property.

    I dont need a legal contract to get married and neither do gays unless i want something from the state
    True, but not relevant to this discussion. The state is barring gays from getting some of those benefits, in violation of the 14th amendment.

    The definition of having to be the same race was not universal in fact it was the exception
    Between a man and a woman isn't universal either.
    I dont want to block anyones rights. Im a Libertarian. What part of get government out of the marriage business escapes you?
    You're full of it. You absolutely do want to block someones' rights. You're hiding it behind this libertarian nonsense because you know the other arguments failed. You never, ever, even once expressed the idea that the government should "get out of marriage" until it became obvious that same-sex marriage was definitely going to happen.

    Let anyone marry anyone and anything they like. It wont effect me.
    Correct. Same-sex marriage does not affect you, and therefore should be legal. While the government can constitutionally eliminate all marriages, you know as well as everyone else that this isn't going to happen. As long as the government recognizes marriage, it must do so in accordance with the 14th amendment, which precludes a gender-based distinction in absence of an important state interest.

    If your going to do it go all the way. Of course marriage wont mean much anymore but then again its been all down hill since progressives introduced no fault divorce
    See? This is how I know your libertarianism is bull****. An actual libertarian wouldn't be spitting out the social conservative rhetoric like this. An actual libertarian would recognize that the people have the right to dissolve a contract they created.

    You aren't a libertarian. Stop lying to yourself, and stop lying to me.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Even if it's "changing" the definition of a man made social construct...so? That's fine if you want to whine, bitch, and complain about that...but that's not a constitutional argument against the notion that our current laws are unconstitutional. Nor is it the first time we've changed the definition of a man made social construct in the law. Being of "voting age" at one time meant you were over 21, later the definition was changed to mean someone over 18, as an example.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Yawn.
    another deflection and facts are still wining
    do you have anything new to post that hasn't been destroyed yet?
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    An oldie but a goodie:

    It's time to play: "Is this argument against interracial marriage or same sex marriage?" (Applause)

    "They cannot possibly have any progeny, and such a fact sufficiently justifies" not allowing their marriage."

    This relationship "is not only unnatural, but is always productive of deplorable results ... [Their children turn out] generally effeminate ... [their relationship is] productive of evil."

    State legislators spoke out against such an "abominable" type of relationship, warning that it will eventually "pollute" America.

    “It not only is a complete undermining of ... the hope of future generations, but it completely begins to see our society break down ... It literally is a threat to the nation’s survival in the long run.”

    This type of marriage is not allowed "because natural instinct revolts at it as wrong."

    This type of marriage is "regarded as unnatural and immoral."

    This type of relationship is "distasteful to our people, and unfit to produce." Such marriages would lead to "a calamity full of the saddest and gloomiest portent to the generations that are to come after us."

    "Although there is no verse in the Bible that dogmatically says [this marriage should not occur], the whole plan of God as He has dealt with [humanity] down through the ages indicates that [this] marriage is not best for man."

    "A little-reported fact is that [these types of relationships] are far more violent than are [insert single-race or heterosexual] households."

    "I believe that the tendency to classify all persons who oppose [this type of relationship] as 'prejudiced' is in itself a prejudice," a psychologist submitted to the court. "Nothing of any significance is gained by such a marriage."

    We'll return with the answers...after these messages!

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