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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The arguments are the same, which is why challenges to bans on gay marriage based on the 14th amendments are equally successful as the challenge to laws against interracial marriage.
    It's all based on politics and make believe. Surely you don't consider the current evolution of our legal system or government to have serious intellectual integrity anymore.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    There is no way the marriage laws are against the US constitution.
    Yes there is. Equal protection clause.

    Next is to allow people to marry different species.
    Slippery slope fallacy is a fallacy for a reason. Animals and children cannot enter legal contracts. If you're so interested in marrying your dog, you're free to start lobbying to allow animals to enter into legal contracts.

    All the groups you mentioned fit the laws of most states. The law was very simple and made sense. Marriage is between one man and one woman. Anyone who fits this category should be allowed to marry.
    Appeal to tradition fallacy. The definition used to be one man and one woman of the same race. Don't even get me started on the early biblical versions of marriage! How many wives and concubines did Solomon have?

    At this point even incest is not a problem as our gene pools have become so varied. Now you want to add a whole new class based on emotions.
    No, you are blocking peoples' rights based on emotions.
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    You're so institutionally brainwashed with this topic, I'll just pass on the banter, pat you on the head, and ask you to run along. Good day.
    You said you were leaving the thread because you'd spent too much time here. Now you're demanding other people leave. That's even more desperate than your earlier argument of semantics.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal;1063002921[B
    ]Demonstrably untrue, and I've already pointed out the why of it to you.
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    Only if you consider the change to marry outside of the tribe, then outside the nation, then outside the faith, and finally to marry outside your race as "based on emotions."
    Then why do states still have these laws?

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    You're so institutionally brainwashed with this topic, I'll just pass on the banter, pat you on the head, and ask you to run along. Good day.
    Translation:

    you have no accurate, factual or logical path to take to defend your factually proven wrong claims so you are deflection.
    thanks for playing, facts win again.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It's all based on politics and make believe. Surely you don't consider the current evolution of our legal system or government to have serious intellectual integrity anymore.
    Gay people actually do exist and actually do want to be treated equally under the law. Sorry to burst your bubble, it's not "make believe." You talk about intellectual integrity, but you aren't responding to the intellectual arguments about how equal protection challenges work. Why is that?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    Now its gender discrimination
    Actually, it's been Gender Discrimination in my eyes for multiple years and I've been saying such on this forum.

    what a joke.
    If it's such a joke put forward and argument against it. Otherwise, it seems you're just flippantly dismissing it because you have no counter.

    Again I want the state out of marriage and no one should be rewarded by the government for getting married.
    All well and good. I'm actually an advocate of abolishing the term "marriage" from the law and simply having "civil unions" rule the day across the board, allowing any two individuals of legal age and not already engaged in such a contract to enter into it.

    However, that's IRRELEVANT to the notion of whether or not the CURRENT laws are unconstitutional or not. What laws you may want to happen doesn't change what's there currently.

    Whether or not you think the current laws are constitutional or unconstitutional has nothing to do with whether you want the laws to be abolished entirely, unless your suggestion is that marriage as a government recognized entity is in and of itself unconstitutional.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It's all based on politics and make believe. Surely you don't consider the current evolution of our legal system or government to have serious intellectual integrity anymore.
    Thank you for your opinion. As it's not an actual argument, however, you've given me nothing to respond to.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    Then why do states still have these laws?
    Why did states still have interracial marriage bans in 1967?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162]

    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    Then why do states still have these laws?
    Because they have not yet been challenged in court or have not yet been repealed by their respective legislatures. Why did states who had those laws no longer have them?

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Translation:

    you have no accurate, factual or logical path to take to defend your factually proven wrong claims so you are deflection.
    thanks for playing, facts win again.
    Now run along.

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