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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Let me remind you again, it's not federal but by state. The polling methodology is suspect as well:

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    In the landline component of these surveys, a sample of landline households in the continental United States is selected by SSI via random digit dialing procedures, in which all landline telephone numbers, listed and unlisted, have an equal probability of selection.
    In other words they spam call finding an end run around do not call laws (federal and state). The only people that respond to this are those with strong beliefs one way or the other and have a lot of time on their hands (so conservatives will be under represented ). I've actually been called by these knobs and told them off for violating the DNC list and informed them of the lawsuit I can bring if they call again. Here in Oregon once you inform one of these spam callers to never call again, subsequent calls are actionable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    No one invents reasons to devalue the plights of other people like the conservatives.
    The "plights of other people" in this case is called the right to play make-believe mommy and daddy. They had that right already.

    It's needy, mindless, nonsense that politicians have figured out how to use to secure voting blocs.

    It doesn't normalize gays, and it doesn't make those out in front of this seem less flamboyant, quirky, funny, and generally out of place. It's all fine by me, but it's still strange and other worldly.

    Nothing has really changed because their "marriage" is absolutely nothing like mine. It's like comparing the marriages of Bill and Hillary to George and Barbara.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Actually, most of the crying and whining is being done by the other side...."What do you mean we have to share our rights with you"...."The word Marriage belongs to us....why do we have to share"...."We should be able to discriminate against anyone that we think is icky".....I could go on and on and on....but I think you get the point.
    I find it humorous how you included marriage, in which you are talking about government marriage, and discrimination, in which you are talking about private discrimination in your list You could make the argument that people have to be equally treated by the government on both fronts, and hell, you can make the argument that people have the right to marriage, but you can't make the argument that people have the right to a government marriage. The only reason it has to be extended is because it exists in the first place, but government marriage by itself is not a human right. As for private discrimination, yes, people have the right to discriminate against anyone they please and those people that were sitting at the lunch counters were trespassing on private property.

    The reason I laugh at gays when they start bitching about not getting a government marriage is only because they keep referring to the government marriage as a human right, when marriage is a human right, not government marriage that is an issue of equal treatment. At least they could use the right argument every once in a while, damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Nothing has really changed because their "marriage" is absolutely nothing like mine.
    I'm starting to think the main problem is that you need them to be different and/or below you. You've probably spent most of your adult life looking down at them, and refuse to see their way of life as anything close to or equal to your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    I'm starting to think the main problem is that you need them to be different and/or below you. You've probably spent most of your adult life looking down at them, and refuse to see their way of life as anything close to or equal to your own.
    Southerns went to their graves believing that blacks were inferior. You're probably not going to change Erod's mind either on gays being inferior.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Nothing has really changed because their "marriage" is absolutely nothing like mine.
    You must not have much of a marriage then. Most married couples that I know, straight or gay are exactly the same. Sorry to hear that you don't have the same.

    Just curious....in what ways does your marriage fail to live up to the standards of most marriages? I'm truly interested in knowing.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah, and there was no social engineering about anti-discrimination laws and just in general other races and people when I was going to school either. Tell me another one. I will just ignore everything to believe you, promise.
    Social engineering. Our founding Fathers gave the American People big old buiding blocks called the Declaration of Independence and US Constitution...


    ..."In Order to form a more perfect Union". Yup, sounds like blue-prints to Social-engineering to me. Thanks Founding Fathers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    There was no social engineering involving gay people. People are just realizing that there is nothing wrong with being gay and happily living your life. These people aren't hurting society, and they do just as much of a good job raising children.
    I think it would help if the LGBT groups would eliminate the in your face attitudes displayed by their supporters in publicly funded events like LGBT parades. Such events probably do more overall harm to their image, and reinforce stereotypes, than any other activity I can think of.

    In this regard, they are most certainly hurting society, children, and frankly, themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Social engineering. Our founding Fathers gave the American People big old buiding blocks called the Declaration of Independence and US Constitution...


    ..."In Order to form a more perfect Union". Yup, sounds like blue-prints to Social-engineering to me. Thanks Founding Fathers.
    So now the words "in order to form a more perfect union" means social enginneering. Wow..

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I think it would help if the LGBT groups would eliminate the in your face attitudes displayed by their supporters in publicly funded events like LGBT parades. Such events probably do more overall harm to their image, and reinforce stereotypes, than any other activity I can think of.

    In this regard, they are most certainly hurting society, children, and frankly, themselves.
    How does a gay pride parage hurt society and children? I've been to probably at least 20-25 gay pride parades and have yet to see anything even close to the type of behavior that you see "straight" people engaging in yearly at mardi gras. The most you might see at a gay pride parade are outrageously flamboyant drag queens and a few boys in go go shorts.

    BTW....I take my children every year. They love it....and I haven't seen hardly anything that I think is inappropriate for them. Quite the contrary. They were approached and handed a "coloring book" by anti-gay evangelists last year that included a lot of material that was sexually explicit and very inappropriate. Probably trying to "scare" kids straight. Personally, I found it disgusting.
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