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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah, it does, but again, it's really awesome to dream. Of course, there is more to than just carrying the kid, and in fact, carrying the kid alone doesn't mean squat to the equation. A woman that carries another womans kid is not the mother of the kid.
    No. It makes you the kids bio mother or father. It doesn't make you the parent in all cases. And even in cases where it does, your parental rights and title can be terminated. While you as the sperm donor or birthing mother remain the bio mom/dad, you don't remain the parent of the child. Understand now?
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Good gosh, stop comparing gays to the plights of slaves. So getting formally married (versus a civil union) is akin to forced labor and post whippings?

    And last I checked, gay people have been working and voting for a long, long time.

    Little dramatic, don't you think?
    their are some similarity's to be seen with other people who have been discriminated against

    iv heard online dozens of times that gay people have the same right to marry as heterosexuals because they can just marry some one of another gender.

    that's **** is the same kind of justification you could use for bans on interracial marriage

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Lol, adopted parents are never the kids REAL PARENTS. Fun to dream though.
    That's not true at all, but it depends largely on the damage done by the real parents beforehand. We were fortunate in that regard because she was so young. And since she's a middle child and was here before the youngest, it's made it seamless in many ways.

    It's all relative to the situation.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Funny how you look down on him, because he has differant views than your own. How ironic.
    I don't see him as less of a person than myself, nor would I go out of my way to hinder his life in any way.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    their are some similarity's to be seen with other people who have been discriminated against

    iv heard online dozens of times that gay people have the same right to marry as heterosexuals because they can just marry some one of another gender.

    that's **** is the same kind of justification you could use for bans on interracial marriage
    Here's the problem. EVERYBODY is discriminated against. Everybody. Short guys don't get to play post on the basketball team. Slow guys don't get to run track. Homely girls don't get anywhere near the attention and opportunities that the pretty ones do. Smart kids get scholarships that mentally challenged kids don't. Type A people get more opportunities in business that more reserved people do.

    Gay people, and many minorities of different types, have this incessant mindset that they face challenges and other people have life handed to them in whatever shape or form they wish.

    That alone has kept the black community in a vice grip of failure. This notion that white people have the world handed to them on a six-figure platter. And strangely enough, there is discrimination within the black community among the lighter and darker varieties of people.

    This is such a wussified, overly sensitive, reality TV driven, needy world we live in. Frankly, it weeds out the weak. My daughters will greatly benefit from that one day.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Lol, adopted parents are never the kids REAL PARENTS. Fun to dream though.
    par·ent [pair-uhnt, par-] Show IPA
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    a father or a mother.
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    an ancestor, precursor, or progenitor.
    3.
    a source, origin, or cause.
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    a protector or guardian.
    5.
    Biology . any organism that produces or generates another.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No. It makes you the kids bio mother or father. It doesn't make you the parent in all cases. And even in cases where it does, your parental rights and title can be terminated. While you as the sperm donor or birthing mother remain the bio mom/dad, you don't remain the parent of the child. Understand now?
    There is a difference between socially created nonsense that somehow warps being a caregiver of a child to being the same as a parent and being the actual parent of the child. A child can have a long series of social created parents(caregivers), but they can only have one set of real parents. Of course, in the future that number might increase to three, four, or beyond, but naturally speaking anyway it will remain two.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    It has become fun watching conservative bigots try to justify their bigotry as the wave grows against them.
    Here we go with the name calling when we have a different opinion.........So stale and boring.....Bring something to the table for once.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So considering that men and women are different exactly how is the marriage between two people of the same sex the same as a marriage between people of the opposite sex? This should be fun.

    It's one thing to say it's a human right to get married, but it's another to ignore innate differences in the sexes.
    Aside from gender, they're exactly the same. They do all the same things, raise kids, to to school plays, PTA, take kids to soccer and dance, eat meals, put out the garbage, go on vacation, watch TV, do laundry, argue, go to church, go to the movies, mow the lawn, have birthday parties, etc etc etc.

    How about a list of things that are 'different?' And even the sex isnt different since lots of straight couples do *all* the same things.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There is a difference between socially created nonsense that somehow warps being a caregiver of a child to being the same as a parent and being the actual parent of the child. A child can have a long series of social created parents(caregivers), but they can only have one set of real parents. Of course, in the future that number might increase to three, four, or beyond, but naturally speaking anyway it will remain two.
    A parent is a person who raises a child. In many cases, this may be the egg/sperm donor, but in many cases it is not. Many people go through life never knowing their bio mom/dad. Does this mean that they grew up without parents? Hardly.
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