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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Hmmm, how about the number of pregnancies between your gay and straight friends, is that "exactly the same" too?
    Actually....yep....pretty much. Most of my friends don't have kids....but just thinking quickly about those that do....a couple of my straight friends have adopted kids and a couple have kids of their own. Same for the gay friends that I have. Some have their own children....others have adopted....most don't have kids. So in answer to your question.....yep....pretty much exactly the same. Thanks for asking.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Whenever I read posts such as these, I pretend that they are spoken in an Eric Cartman voice. When I do that, they become MUCH easier to read.
    I always view NP as "Angry Dad" from the Simpsons.....when you do that....his posts make complete sense.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Wow.....now it all makes sense. You value adopted children and adopted families the same way that you devalue gay marriage. THAT is extremely sad and just shows how short-sighted you are. Why don't you talk to an adoptive parent or an adoptive child and find out whether they value their children as much as you do.
    I am an adoptive parent. And that wasn't the point. Stretch your mind a bit.

    Kids are created by men and women, and need to be raised by mothers and fathers. This is absolutely critical to the development of children. You see the horrible result in our nation from its mass shortcomings in this area. The prison system is full of the consequences.

    Forcing a child into a gay marriage "family" is cruel and confusing to them. Sure, it's better than an orphanage, perhaps, but it's not healthy for their development. Politics don't raise kids, structured natural families do. Trust me, this is even more critical for adopted children, who face challenges and carry scars you can't erase no matter what.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I am an adoptive parent. And that wasn't the point. Stretch your mind a bit.

    Kids are created by men and women, and need to be raised by mothers and fathers. This is absolutely critical to the development of children. You see the horrible result in our nation from its mass shortcomings in this area. The prison system is full of the consequences.

    Forcing a child into a gay marriage "family" is cruel and confusing to them. Sure, it's better than an orphanage, perhaps, but it's not healthy for their development. Politics don't raise kids, structured natural families do. Trust me, this is even more critical for adopted children, who face challenges and carry scars you can't erase no matter what.
    I just love when I directly respond to posts before they are even posted:

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    Whenever I see these anti-LGBT whining posts, my consolation is always that their attitude is literally dying out.
    But then again, it isn't that hard to do. I leave the reasons for that as an exercise to you guys.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I am an adoptive parent. And that wasn't the point. Stretch your mind a bit.

    Kids are created by men and women, and need to be raised by mothers and fathers. This is absolutely critical to the development of children. You see the horrible result in our nation from its mass shortcomings in this area. The prison system is full of the consequences.

    Forcing a child into a gay marriage "family" is cruel and confusing to them. Sure, it's better than an orphanage, perhaps, but it's not healthy for their development. Politics don't raise kids, structured natural families do. Trust me, this is even more critical for adopted children, who face challenges and carry scars you can't erase no matter what.
    Just more of your short-sighted views based more on myth than facts. The facts are almost completely opposite to your beliefs here...and if you are an adoptive parent, I feel sorry for your adopted children, because it was obviously from your post above that you view adoptive children as inferior to biological children. When you say that an "adoptive family" is not anywhere near the same as a biological one, you are devaluing the adoptive child...and that is just sad.
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Forcing a child into a gay marriage "family" is cruel and confusing to them. Sure, it's better than an orphanage, perhaps, but it's not healthy for their development. Politics don't raise kids, structured natural families do. Trust me, this is even more critical for adopted children, who face challenges and carry scars you can't erase no matter what.
    Kids do not need people with particular sexual organs raising them. Good parenting has a lot less to do with whether you have a penis or a vagina than it does whether you have to committment and patience to spend the time to nurture, love and give direction to a child. Trust me....
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Just more of your short-sighted views based more on myth than facts. The facts are almost completely opposite to your beliefs here...and if you are an adoptive parent, I feel sorry for your adopted children, because it was obviously from your post above that you view adoptive children as inferior to biological children. When you say that an "adoptive family" is not anywhere near the same as a biological one, you are devaluing the adoptive child...and that is just sad.
    And with that, dude, you can go eff yourself. Did I call adopted kids "inferior"? Do you think I consider my daughter inferior? You are the strawman champion of all time. Just how many can you create in an hour?

    You're here all the stinking time. You don't work apparently, or certainly don't win the bread, so no wonder husband-wife roles are so inconvenient for you. You gotta be a man to feel like one, I suppose.

    An adoptive family is different, not inferior. And until you have the balls to adopt a child, you should stop talking out your ass.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    And with that, dude, you can't go eff yourself. Did I call adopted kids "inferior"? Do you think I consider my daughter inferior? You are the strawman champion of all time. Just how many can you create in an hour?

    You're here all the stinking time. You don't work apparently, or certainly don't win the bread, so no wonder husband-wife roles are so inconvenient for you. You gotta be a man to feel like one, I suppose.

    An adoptive family is different, not inferior. And until you have the balls to adopt a child, you should stop talking out your ass.
    Yes....as a matter of fact you did. When someone mentioned adoption, your response was that is was "nothing like a biological family".

    And BTW....all three of my children are adopted...and I Love them every bit as much as I would if they were biologically mine.

    *** Just to be clear....your exact words from post #81 "they are hardly the same". THAT my friend is devaluing and calling them inferior
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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes....as a matter of fact you did. When someone mentioned adoption, your response was that is was "nothing like a biological family".

    And BTW....all three of my children are adopted...and I Love them every bit as much as I would if they were biologically mine.
    How exactly would you know, pre tel?

    And, Mr. Strawman, I didn't say it's "nothing like a biological family"? I said two gay guys with adopted children is not like a traditional biological family. That is true as can be. It's extremely confusing to a child, beyond the natural challenges already in place.

    Raising an adopted child is different because they don't have that immediate connection with you as you do them, especially when you don't adopt them at infancy. It takes time to develop, as opposed to my two biological daughters, which was immediate. Adopted kids have to figure it all out amidst a cloud of uncertainty. It is different because it is more delicate from the outset.

    Now, stop presenting my points as you conveniently want them to be, or just ignore me.

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    Re: Record Support for Gay Marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    . And until you have the balls to adopt a child, you should stop talking out your ass.
    And not that you asked...but I'll tell you anyway. When we adopted them, the 6 year old was about 2 grade levels below where he should have been. He could barely read a few words and the 5 year old couldn't read at all. The 5 year old has a fairly serious eye problem that we were told would most likely require an operation to correct it. Fast forward 3 years. The 9 year old is now exceeding his peers and is near the top student in his class. The 8 year old is up to grade level and is progressing well...and since we have been vigilant about requiring him to wear his eye glasses and do his eye exercises, the doctor says he probably won't need an operation.

    Oh....and BTW....these were kids that were born to a male/female marriage who ended up in a male/female foster home where they lived for 3 years.

    Oh....and in case you haven't figured it out yet, Me and my husband are gay parents.
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