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    Re: EPA Set to reveal new Sulfer regulations

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    Why do you support giving lung cancer to children?
    Do you support legalization of pot?
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    Re: EPA Set to reveal new Sulfer regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What kind of vehicle do you drive? How did you measure the mileage? Did you write down distances driven, to the tenth of a mile? Did you measure the gasoline in your tank before and after, to the tenth of a gallon? Did you control for changes in weight, temperature, pressure, and winds? Road conditions? Tire pressure? What was the temperature of the gasoline when put into your tank? How about after driving?

    If you think your personal, completely unorganized, non-recorded observations are better than someone actually paying attention to the variables mentioned above, and more, you make a perfect conservative.
    On computer controlled cars, temperature, pressure, etc are calculated by the computer. Winds? On my Tahoe, I've noticed a small change with winds, but not much. My camaro, wind definitely doesn't change it. Nor has any weight I've put into it. About the only thing that has significantly changed the fuel mileage on the camaro has been ethanol gas vs real gas. Then I drop from around 30 mpg to 26 mpg. Of course, the EPA will tell you that car only gets 24 mpg, which might of been true prior to upgrading the prom in it. Miles to the tenth of a mile, yes. Amount, not really, fill until the pump kicks off the first time (I don't live in Cali or one of those states with the vapor system on it that doesn't actually allow you to get the tank full.

    I have 9 vehicles, only 4 of which are drivable at the moment. Of those, two have not been modified in some way. Of the ones I checked fuel mileage on, a 1985 Fiero, 2.5/5 speed, EPA estimate 33 mpg, actual measured, 42 Mpg. 1992 Camaro Z28 5.0L/5 speed, EPA 24, actual measured, 30. 2003 Chev Tahoe 5.3L/4 speed Automatic, 4 Wheel Drive, EPA 17, actual measured 20.
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    Re: EPA Set to reveal new Sulfer regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why do you support giving lung cancer to children?
    Give us a link to an actual scientific study that can definitively link automobile emissions to lung cancer or any other lung disease.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: EPA Set to reveal new Sulfer regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you support legalization of pot?
    1) Not an equivalent situation.

    2) Yes, but only in accordance with existing second-hand smoke and DUI laws.

    Sentence 2 should help you understand sentence 1, but if you still can't figure it out let me know.
    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Give us a link to an actual scientific study that can definitively link automobile emissions to lung cancer or any other lung disease.
    automobile emissions and lung disease - Google Scholar
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: EPA Set to reveal new Sulfer regulations

    Radical environmentalist shall cause us all to pay more. But hey, THEY CARE! /smh
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: EPA Set to reveal new Sulfer regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Give us a link to an actual scientific study that can definitively link automobile emissions to lung cancer or any other lung disease.
    He can't. He's got the "if it saves just one child, it's worth it" mentality.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: EPA Set to reveal new Sulfer regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    He can't.
    He did.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: EPA Set to reveal new Sulfer regulations

    This is why the CEO of Exxon-Mobil is suing a town for putting a water tower 'near' where he lives.
    The tower would ruin his view, lower his properety value.
    Then the same CEO sues towns so he can FRACK right next to them, towers and truck traffic and stuff .
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Radical environmentalist shall cause us all to pay more. But hey, THEY CARE! /smh
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    Re: EPA Set to reveal new Sulfer regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    1) Not an equivalent situation.

    2) Yes, but only in accordance with existing second-hand smoke and DUI laws.

    Sentence 2 should help you understand sentence 1, but if you still can't figure it out let me know.


    automobile emissions and lung disease - Google Scholar
    I guess you missed the word "Definitive". I included that because unless their study included people who have not, in their entire life, been exposed to other sources, smoking for instance, then they cannot definitively link it. Everyone in everyone of the studies had been exposed during a lifetime to a plethora of other sources. It is impossible to definitively link one type of pollution, much less a single component, to any particular case because there is not way to study those only exposed to a single source. And that is before they take into account a genetic predisposition to a particular cancer or disease.
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    Re: EPA Set to reveal new Sulfer regulations

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    He can't. He's got the "if it saves just one child, it's worth it" mentality.
    He doesn't understand that a statistical link is not a definitive link. Statistically, 1/3 of all smokers will die of smoking related illnesses. Statistically, X number of people in the general population will come down with the particular diseases mentioned by the EPA. That is from all sources. Do smokers in LA get cancer at a higher rate than smokers who live in a forest and are rarely subjected to smog? Then there is genetic disposition, weakening of the immune system, other related illnesses that may also cause a problem, etc, etc.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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