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    US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Obama has cut military to military talks and support with Russia.....Do you think this will cause problems going forward and dealing with Russia? Also in what way will this cost the US money, by doing this?



    US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....
    Associated Press – 2 mins 47 secs ago




    The Obama administration readied economic sanctions against Russia on Tuesday as it formally announced an aid package of $1 billion in energy subsidies to Ukraine amid worries that Moscow would extend its military reach into the mainland of the former Soviet republic.

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev for a five-hour show of support for the fledgling Ukraine government as it grapples with a military takeover of Crimea, a strategic, mostly pro-Russian region in the country's southeast. Kerry also was to pay homage to the dozens of protesters who were slain Feb. 20 in anti-government demonstrations that days later ousted Ukraine President Viktor Yanukovych.

    As Kerry arrived, the White House announced a package of energy aid, training for financial and election institutions, and anti-corruption efforts. U.S. officials traveling with Kerry also said the Obama administration is considering slapping Russia with unspecified economic sanctions as soon as this week.

    Additionally, the officials said, the U.S. has suspended what was described as a narrow set of discussions with Russia over a bilateral trade investment treaty. It is also going to provide technical advice to the Ukraine government about its trade rights with Russia. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to be quoted by name before the official announcement was made.....snip~

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    This will obviously cause tensions with Russia, but far fewer than Russia is causing. Likely, the financial costs will be quite small due to the minimal trade and lack of reliance on Russian resources, as well as the simple fact the banks are all in the western world. Giving aid to the Ukraine and sanctioning Russia is pretty much the only option available to the west, and I have a feeling it will be used aggressively until Russia either collapses or submits.

    The people of Russia are already economically downtrodden....I doubt Putin wants a revolt.

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    Can't we just leave Kerry there for a few weeks and save the billion $? I don't get the need to throw money at Ukraine at this time.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    This will obviously cause tensions with Russia, but far fewer than Russia is causing. Likely, the financial costs will be quite small due to the minimal trade and lack of reliance on Russian resources, as well as the simple fact the banks are all in the western world. Giving aid to the Ukraine and sanctioning Russia is pretty much the only option available to the west, and I have a feeling it will be used aggressively until Russia either collapses or submits.

    The people of Russia are already economically downtrodden....I doubt Putin wants a revolt.
    Mornin' Tecoyah.....Are you sure it was the only Option? Do you think any type of moves could have been made for Perception and Appearances?

    Also.....where do we have a Billion dollars to come up with for the Ukraine, which was never on the radar for aid in the first place? 1 billion dollars.....and whats makes this so redundant. Is Putin has made the moves he needed and now is standing down with his drills, says Yanokovich wont be the President of the Ukraine nor his government. Plus just gave the Ukrainians a pass on their Gas debt.

    Hard to believe that Putin could outplay all on Team Obama.....huh? Including Obama himself and one on one-toe to toe.....Politically. Do you think Obama can handle the pressure any more.....himself. Not his team players.

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' Tecoyah.....Are you sure it was the only Option? Do you think any type of moves could have been made for Perception and Appearances?

    Also.....where do we have a Billion dollars to come up with for the Ukraine, which was never on the radar for aid in the first place? 1 billion dollars.....and whats makes this so redundant. Is Putin has made the moves he needed and now is standing down with his drills, says Yanokovich wont be the President of the Ukraine nor his government. Plus just gave the Ukrainians a pass on their Gas debt.

    Hard to believe that Putin could outplay all on Team Obama.....huh? Including Obama himself and one on one-toe to toe.....Politically. Do you think Obama can handle the pressure any more.....himself. Not his team players.
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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Can't we just leave Kerry there for a few weeks and save the billion $? I don't get the need to throw money at Ukraine at this time.
    It is just pressed paper. Consider the lives this could be saving.
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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Also.....where do we have a Billion dollars to come up with for the Ukraine, which was never on the radar for aid in the first place? 1 billion dollars.....and whats makes this so redundant.
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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' Tecoyah.....Are you sure it was the only Option? Do you think any type of moves could have been made for Perception and Appearances?

    Also.....where do we have a Billion dollars to come up with for the Ukraine, which was never on the radar for aid in the first place? 1 billion dollars.....and whats makes this so redundant. Is Putin has made the moves he needed and now is standing down with his drills, says Yanokovich wont be the President of the Ukraine nor his government. Plus just gave the Ukrainians a pass on their Gas debt.

    Hard to believe that Putin could outplay all on Team Obama.....huh? Including Obama himself and one on one-toe to toe.....Politically. Do you think Obama can handle the pressure any more.....himself. Not his team players.
    Think Putin already has everything he wanted from this event. He got control of his naval bases. He gives the West the Ukraine's financial problems, which total more like $45 billion, than the $1 billion we have to offer.

    Putin has probably also put folks on notice not to try and add the Ukraine to NATO.

    Why do we need NATO anyway?

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    It is just pressed paper. Consider the lives this could be saving.
    I consider the lives it could be saving here at home first.
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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    The natural Obama reaction to any "crisis" is to borrow and spend. The silence from our NATO "partners" makes me think that they will not play along with any Obama plan that includes refusal to trade with Russia - especially when it comes to their need for oil and natural gas. Perhaps Obama will ask Hillary for a reset button of his own so that he can "take action" without simply tossing U.S. tax money into a messy situation and making promises to come up with a plan.
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