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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Heres a very good post I read on Andrew Sulllivans blog, discussing how the neo cons like McCain want to rattle sabers and consider military intervention, but they dont recognize the profound damage that Putin is doing to himself and to Russia by putting on this display.

    Really excellent read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Heres a very good post I read on Andrew Sulllivans blog, discussing how the neo cons like McCain want to rattle sabers and consider military intervention, but they dont recognize the profound damage that Putin is doing to himself and to Russia by putting on this display.

    Really excellent read.
    What damage is he doing to himself?
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    What damage is he doing to himself?
    Maybe you should read.
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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Maybe you should read.
    You made the statement, you explain it.
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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Maybe you should read.
    Rank speculation on Sullivan's part, his crystal ball may be cracked. I think Putin will come out of this looking like he always does - a hero to his people. The people who hated him before will still hate him, and the rest will think he's a pretty damn good leader. The Ukraine will still be the pipeline nation inbetween the producer and the consumer and will remain brothers with Russia (they have common interests) and now they'll be wiping their asses with a billion dollars courtesy of our failed POTUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What damage is he doing to himself?
    This isn't the Cold War and Russia isn't the superpower it used to be. Bullying Ukraine gains him nothing but negative response from the global community. Younger Russians do not buy into this old school, Cold War muscle flexing mentality. They don't want conflict. They don't want Russian foreign policy written with a Kalashnikov. He looks desperate. His attempt to bag Ukraine politically failed and resulted in his man getting run out of town, now he has to resort to military force to try and coerce them.

    The image he built of himself, especially since Syria, is shattering on the world stage. He looks like thug with no options other than muscle. We can sit back and watch this spin downward for him and Russia and we don't have to do a thing.
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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    This isn't the Cold War and Russia isn't the superpower it used to be. Bullying Ukraine gains him nothing but negative response from the global community. Younger Russians do not buy into this old school, Cold War muscle flexing mentality. They don't want conflict. They don't want Russian foreign policy written with a Kalashnikov. He looks desperate. His attempt to bag Ukraine politically failed and resulted in his man getting run out of town, now he has to resort to military force to try and coerce them.

    The image he built of himself, especially since Syria, is shattering on the world stage. He looks like thug with no options other than muscle. We can sit back and watch this spin downward for him and Russia and we don't have to do a thing.
    If there was anyone in the global community that had the nads to stand up to him, I would agree. However, there isn't and I doubt Putin really cares if he looks like a thug, because in his mind, he looks like a tough mother****er, that doesn't have to take **** off anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Rank speculation on Sullivan's part, his crystal ball may be cracked. I think Putin will come out of this looking like he always does - a hero to his people. The people who hated him before will still hate him, and the rest will think he's a pretty damn good leader.
    As with Guilianai's gushing praise of Putin, who doesn't have to live by those pesky rules of Democracy that Obama does.
    Nice to see Mr. Cantor's support of the POTUSA, which I don't see3 on FOX .
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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Rank speculation on Sullivan's part, his crystal ball may be cracked. I think Putin will come out of this looking like he always does - a hero to his people. The people who hated him before will still hate him, and the rest will think he's a pretty damn good leader. The Ukraine will still be the pipeline nation inbetween the producer and the consumer and will remain brothers with Russia (they have common interests) and now they'll be wiping their asses with a billion dollars courtesy of our failed POTUS.
    Rank speculation on your part. Your crystal ball may be cracked.

    Khazakstan has already broken ranks with Russia - usually their most dependable satellite. I would assume all the other nations that now enjoy independent status from Russia will follow and agree. If you actually, you know, READ any of the stuff I posted you'd see that the Russian people are not too excited about this incursion and probably would really dislike an actual invasion of the main Ukrainian state. News reports are saying that Russia is blocking outside information to their citizens about Ukrainian reaction.. thats not real promising for them....Russians have many ways to get around a firewall, unlike, for example Chinese or Iranians. Its not going to look good for him as this unfolds, internationally or domestically.
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