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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
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    Also.....where do we have a Billion dollars to come up with for the Ukraine, which was never on the radar for aid in the first place? 1 billion dollars.....and whats makes this so redundant. I.
    A billion dollars is useless.

    Also, a billion dollars is cheap. US federal budget is basically 3000 billions. It's not even 1% of the budget.
    Moreoever, it's useless to Ukraine. 1bil doesn't cover 1 months' spending with all the troubles this "mini aggression war" caused and all the damage that the previous government did. Consider this, under Yanukovych, almost 37bil euros went "missing"... well, went into the pockets of politicians and their clientele which is why Ukraine is in big trouble now, economically.

    The EU plans to give a 15-20bil euros bailout to Ukraine. those are the numbers circulating. We'll know more in 2 days.

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Can't we just leave Kerry there for a few weeks and save the billion $? I don't get the need to throw money at Ukraine at this time.
    I don't either at least not yet. But like everything in this administration, instead of coming up with real solutions to any problem, the answer is throw money at it. While Kerry keeps shooting his mouth off with empty threats, investors have already punished Putin yesterday by causing Russia's stock market to plunge 10%. When you have a bunch of yahoos running foreign affairs making us look weak on the world stage and gutting our military, is it any wonder that Putin feels like he can get away with what he is doing? The despots know when it's safe to raise Hell. Even the left leaning Washington Post yesterday called Obama and his administration's foreign policy fantasy. I pray to God we are not faced with another attack on this country or that this thing with Russia escalates into a war because quite frankly those currently in charge couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag.

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Don't give 1B $ to Ukrainian people. It will go indirectly to Russians.
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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    Congress will borrow it from China
    "A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you're talking real money." Senator Everett Dirksen

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    A billion dollars is useless.

    Also, a billion dollars is cheap. US federal budget is basically 3000 billions. It's not even 1% of the budget.
    Moreoever, it's useless to Ukraine. 1bil doesn't cover 1 months' spending with all the troubles this "mini aggression war" caused and all the damage that the previous government did. Consider this, under Yanukovych, almost 37bil euros went "missing"... well, went into the pockets of politicians and their clientele which is why Ukraine is in big trouble now, economically.

    The EU plans to give a 15-20bil euros bailout to Ukraine. those are the numbers circulating. We'll know more in 2 days.
    Who actually gets the money? The banks, the government? The people probably won't see a dime! .

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I don't either at least not yet. But like everything in this administration, instead of coming up with real solutions to any problem, the answer is throw money at it. While Kerry keeps shooting his mouth off with empty threats, investors have already punished Putin yesterday by causing Russia's stock market to plunge 10%. When you have a bunch of yahoos running foreign affairs making us look weak on the world stage and gutting our military, is it any wonder that Putin feels like he can get away with what he is doing? The despots know when it's safe to raise Hell. Even the left leaning Washington Post yesterday called Obama and his administration's foreign policy fantasy. I pray to God we are not faced with another attack on this country or that this thing with Russia escalates into a war because quite frankly those currently in charge couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag.

    Mornin' Vesper.....Yeah Russian Markets plunged and so to did the EU's. Notice they weren't so eager to throw up numbers as to what aid they would give. They did throwup that they would talk about it. Bout it.


    Of Course Obama.....now looks like a major fool giving this money to the Ukraine. While Kerry is in the Ukraine making a Special Guest Appearance. To bad its not like the 1960 TV shows.....where Special Guest Appearance means.....no longer part of the Show.

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    A billion dollars is useless.

    Also, a billion dollars is cheap. US federal budget is basically 3000 billions. It's not even 1% of the budget.
    Moreoever, it's useless to Ukraine. 1bil doesn't cover 1 months' spending with all the troubles this "mini aggression war" caused and all the damage that the previous government did. Consider this, under Yanukovych, almost 37bil euros went "missing"... well, went into the pockets of politicians and their clientele which is why Ukraine is in big trouble now, economically.

    The EU plans to give a 15-20bil euros bailout to Ukraine. those are the numbers circulating. We'll know more in 2 days.


    Mornin' RM.....that's not true. We don't have the money like we use. Now that's not to say we couldn't muster it up, but the Ukraine wasn't an ally and we giving money to a Line on a list that wasn't there and then is pencil in. Cannot be trusted.

    Moreover.....how can Obama justify this 1 Billion dollars of aid to the Ukraine, giving money to those outside the US. When the US economy isn't improving like they say.

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I don't either at least not yet. But like everything in this administration, instead of coming up with real solutions to any problem, the answer is throw money at it. While Kerry keeps shooting his mouth off with empty threats, investors have already punished Putin yesterday by causing Russia's stock market to plunge 10%. When you have a bunch of yahoos running foreign affairs making us look weak on the world stage and gutting our military, is it any wonder that Putin feels like he can get away with what he is doing? The despots know when it's safe to raise Hell. Even the left leaning Washington Post yesterday called Obama and his administration's foreign policy fantasy. I pray to God we are not faced with another attack on this country or that this thing with Russia escalates into a war because quite frankly those currently in charge couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag.
    Masterful scam, and we're the scamee. Putin plays games very well. How much "aid" are France and Great Brittain and Germany kicking in? How far would one billion dollars go to repairing our infrastructure?

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' RM.....that's not true. We don't have the money like we use. Now that's not to say we couldn't muster it up, but the Ukraine wasn't an ally and we giving money to a Line on a list that wasn't there and then is pencil in. Cannot be trusted.

    Moreover.....how can Obama justify this 1 Billion dollars of aid to the Ukraine, giving money to those outside the US. When the US economy isn't improving like they say.
    I agree. And the same logic works with all US aid right now.
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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by leoborn View Post
    Masterful scam, and we're the scamee. Putin plays games very well. How much "aid" are France and Great Brittain and Germany kicking in? How far would one billion dollars go to repairing our infrastructure?
    That $1 billion could fund about 20 Solyndras.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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