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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We got'er done, either way. That's all that counts.

    How well do you think the Euros are going to do defusing this one?

    Ukraine: UK rules out Russia trade curbs? - BBC News | UK Fresh News - thenews-uk.com
    Putins got it under control. Sit back and relax.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Putins got it under control. Sit back and relax.
    Stalin had it under control, too!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We got'er done, either way. That's all that counts.

    How well do you think the Euros are going to do defusing this one?

    Ukraine: UK rules out Russia trade curbs? - BBC News | UK Fresh News - thenews-uk.com
    And that hillbilly'esque attitude about just shooting the **** out of anyone that doesn't agree with how we want things handled is why we are reviled. Americans always believe our own hype and then get pissed when almost everyone else looks at us and shake their head.

    You make the mistake of assuming that I consider kicking Russia out of the Crimea as "diffusing" the situation. That isn't going to happen. If Russia pulls out of the Crimea it will be because they choose to. Diffusing this, at this point, means avoiding an escalation to the point of a shooting war between Ukraine and Russia. Containment and pulling back from the brink of war, calming the markets, and letting Kiev and Moscow handle the issue of Crimean autonomy is diffusing the situation. The U.S. strutting about and flexing military muscle isn't going to accomplish that. NATO forces massing in Poland and Romania and anywhere else along the western Ukrainian border isn't going to accomplish that.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    You make the mistake of assuming that I consider kicking Russia out of the Crimea as "diffusing" the situation. That isn't going to happen. If Russia pulls out of the Crimea it will be because they choose to. Diffusing this, at this point, means avoiding an escalation to the point of a shooting war between Ukraine and Russia. Containment and pulling back from the brink of war, calming the markets, and letting Kiev and Moscow handle the issue of Crimean autonomy is diffusing the situation. The U.S. strutting about and flexing military muscle isn't going to accomplish that. NATO forces massing in Poland and Romania and anywhere else along the western Ukrainian border isn't going to accomplish that.
    Oh, so you believe appeasement is the answer?

    It's useless to continue talking to you on this subject.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Stalin had it under control, too!
    First we compared him to Hitler, now Stalin, next who. It's beyond comprehension that Putin having killed no one or destroyed any property in this issue, and he gets compared to Hitler and Stalin. Lmao.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Stalin had it under control, too!
    You obviously have no idea about who Stalin or Putin are, or you are just being obtuse.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    First we compared him to Hitler, now Stalin, next who. It's beyond comprehension that Putin having killed no one or destroyed any property in this issue, and he gets compared to Hitler and Stalin. Lmao.
    Yeah because Putin has started ethnic cleansing and deporting the Tartars lol.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, so you believe appeasement is the answer?

    It's useless to continue talking to you on this subject.
    I believe in letting the Europeans deal with this. You are so tough.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    You obviously have no idea about who Stalin or Putin are, or you are just being obtuse.
    Not only do I know who Stalin and Putin are, I know who Neville Chamberlin was, too. He believed that appeasement was the answer to hostile expansion.
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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I believe in letting the Europeans deal with this. You are so tough.
    No, you believe in letting the Euros ignore the situation and hope it goes away by itself.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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