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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

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    The difference being Kennedy and Reagan had balls, Obama is the black Jimmy Carter.
    OMG! That's racist!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

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    The Berlin Crisis, for two.
    Plus, the Americans actually invaded Italy at one time~~!

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Grant. Flexibility?.....Oh is that what they are calling it now.


    Admin officials tell CNN's Barbara Starr this is an "uncontested arrival" not necessarily "an invasion" and that this distinction is "key.".....snip~


    Yeah, I guess they could try and go with that.


    "uncontested arrival"
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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    "uncontested arrival"
    Yes F&L.....and that distinction, is KEY!

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yes F&L.....and that distinction, is KEY!
    It's as accurate as calling abortion an "interruption in the birth cycle."

    I wonder where that puts drone bombings? "Uncontested peace initiatives"?


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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    "uncontested arrival"
    Yes, because none of the locals fought back against the Russian army then they must be supportive.. Good call, Obama!

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, because none of the locals fought back against the Russian army then they must be supportive.. Good call, Obama!
    While Obama was promising to be 'flexible' with Vlad the bad, his political opponent at the time said this.

    630WPRO.COM | The Voice of Rhode Island - Republicans to Obama on Ukraine: ?We Told You So? [From ABC News]

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    While Obama was promising to be 'flexible' with Vlad the bad, his political opponent at the time said this.

    630WPRO.COM | The Voice of Rhode Island - Republicans to Obama on Ukraine: ?We Told You So? [From ABC News]
    I like Vlad the gay impaler Putin.....

    It rings so, so, well, rainbow!
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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Better than the Euros.

    We won the cold war, remember?
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    Actually, yes. Cuba, for one.
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    Yes, North Americans have lived together in peace for a very long while. Not so the Europeans.
    Really? In European issues we have a track record of diffusing situations? Like what? Cuba? Well that wasn't really a European situation, that was a Caribbean situation involving Russia and the US. But okay...that's one. What other situations have we diffused?

    How did we diffuse the situation in Kuwait? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation with Iraq/Saddam Hussein? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation with Afghanistan/Taliban? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation with Panama? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation in the Balkans? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Vietnam? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Korea? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Grenada? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Libya? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Somalia? We didn't.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Syria? We didn't.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Egypt? We didn't.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Mexico? We didn't.

    That's not really diffusing anything. That's shooting and bombing ****. Pretty much the antithesis of diffusion. But I see where you get the idea we have a really good track record. Yeah we haven't gone to war with Canada lately.

    And "we" as in the U.S., did not win the Cold War all by ourselves. If you think we did you are quite wrong. We had a lot of help...much of it European. Oh...and Mikhail Gorbachev had a big role as well. Maybe look up Perestroika and Glasnost. To say "the U.S. won the Cold War" is to betray a lack of understanding of the Cold War, who "fought" it, and how it was "fought."

    But please, show me some more examples of how we have successfully "diffused" situations.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Really? In European issues we have a track record of diffusing situations? Like what? Cuba? Well that wasn't really a European situation, that was a Caribbean situation involving Russia and the US. But okay...that's one. What other situations have we diffused?

    How did we diffuse the situation in Kuwait? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation with Iraq/Saddam Hussein? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse with Afghanistan/Taliban? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation with Panama? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation in the Balkans? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Vietnam? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Korea? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Grenada? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Libya? Militarily.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Somalia? We didn't.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Syria? We didn't.
    How did we diffuse the situation in Egypt? We didn't.

    That's not really diffusing anything. That's shooting and bombing ****. Pretty much the antithesis of diffusion.

    And "we" as in the U.S., did not win the Cold War all by ourselves. If you think we did you are quite wrong. We had a lot of help...much of it European. Oh...and Mikhail Gorbachev had a big role as well. Maybe look up Perestroika and Glasnost. To say "the U.S. won the Cold War" is to betray a lack of understanding of the Cold War, who "fought" it, and how it was "fought."

    But please, show me some more examples of how we have successfully "diffused" situations.
    We got'er done, either way. That's all that counts.

    How well do you think the Euros are going to do defusing this one?

    Ukraine: UK rules out Russia trade curbs? - BBC News | UK Fresh News - thenews-uk.com
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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