Page 13 of 22 FirstFirst ... 31112131415 ... LastLast
Results 121 to 130 of 220

Thread: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

  1. #121
    Every day I'm hustlin'..
    Lerxst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Nationwide...
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:20 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    15,441

    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Just checking the news outlets for updates on this situation and what I'm seeing is that while Congress and President Obama are pushing for economic sanctions against Russia, Europe is urging the U.S. to slow down and let them set the pace. Why? Because U.S. policy on a European problem will most likely negatively impact our European allies as much or more so than it will Russia.

    Why can't we just slow the **** down, let another 3rd party country take the lead on this. Say Germany? Why must it be us, especially when we appear to be out of step with those most affected? I get the feeling that what Germany and the rest of the EU really want to say to us is "hey...America...chill the **** out, please."
    Last edited by Lerxst; 03-04-14 at 07:13 PM.
    *insert profound statement here*

  2. #122
    Sage
    Montecresto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-13-16 @ 11:59 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,561

    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Just checking the news outlets for updates on this situation and what I'm seeing is that while Congress and President Obama are pushing for economic sanctions against Russia, Europe is urging the U.S. to slow down and let them set the pace. Why? Because U.S. policy on a European problem will most likely negatively impact our European allies as much or more so than it will Russia.

    Why can't we just slow the **** down, let another 3rd party country take the lead on this. Say Germany? Why must it be us, especially when we appear to e out of step with those most affected? I get the feeling that what Germany and the rest of the EU really want to say to us is "hey...America...chill the **** out, please."
    Love it, I think Mrs. Merkel should say it, lol.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

  3. #123
    Sage


    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    IL
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    36,785

    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    My take from Baier on FOX so far.
    Live clips of Kerry being lovingly mobbed in Kiev.
    Reporters in France telling Kerry that Putin denied Russian troops involved.
    Kerry slapping back at Putin.
    Putin saying his Russians were there and that he could go in with force when needed.
    Obama slapping Putin around.
    Graham and McCain slamming Obama, indirectly circling the wagons around Putin .
    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Just checking the news outlets for updates on this situation and what I'm seeing is that while Congress and President Obama are pushing for economic sanctions against Russia, Europe is urging the U.S. to slow down and let them set the pace. Why? Because U.S. policy on a European problem will most likely negatively impact our European allies as much or more so than it will Russia.

    Why can't we just slow the **** down, let another 3rd party country take the lead on this. Say Germany? Why must it be us, especially when we appear to e out of step with those most affected? I get the feeling that what Germany and the rest of the EU really want to say to us is "hey...America...chill the **** out, please."
    Physics is Phun

  4. #124
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You've been told repeatedly, he tried. He couldn't secure a UN resolution, the UK backed out, he hadn't secured authorisation from congress, 70% of Americans were against it, he's one man, he was stopped. He should have never issued the red line threat that has been interpreted as a threat to use force, until he had secured authorisation to use force. That doesn't make him a coward. Although I'm glad authorisation never came.
    Blustering blowhards are not noted for their courage, and bluster is all this President has done.

  5. #125
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Obama has cut military to military talks and support with Russia.....Do you think this will cause problems going forward and dealing with Russia? Also in what way will this cost the US money, by doing this?



    US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....
    Associated Press 2 mins 47 secs ago




    The Obama administration readied economic sanctions against Russia on Tuesday as it formally announced an aid package of $1 billion in energy subsidies to Ukraine amid worries that Moscow would extend its military reach into the mainland of the former Soviet republic.

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev for a five-hour show of support for the fledgling Ukraine government as it grapples with a military takeover of Crimea, a strategic, mostly pro-Russian region in the country's southeast. Kerry also was to pay homage to the dozens of protesters who were slain Feb. 20 in anti-government demonstrations that days later ousted Ukraine President Viktor Yanukovych.

    As Kerry arrived, the White House announced a package of energy aid, training for financial and election institutions, and anti-corruption efforts. U.S. officials traveling with Kerry also said the Obama administration is considering slapping Russia with unspecified economic sanctions as soon as this week.

    Additionally, the officials said, the U.S. has suspended what was described as a narrow set of discussions with Russia over a bilateral trade investment treaty. It is also going to provide technical advice to the Ukraine government about its trade rights with Russia. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to be quoted by name before the official announcement was made.....snip~

    US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine
    This appears to be a good initiative by the Obama Administration and one that will be a win for Obama and a win for Putin as well.

    Putin will get the Crimea, as he wanted, and Obama will get credit for stopping Russia from absorbing the entire Ukraine. Perhaps this is the 'flexibility' Obama once referred to.

  6. #126
    Sage
    Montecresto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Last Seen
    03-13-16 @ 11:59 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,561

    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Blustering blowhards are not noted for their courage, and bluster is all this President has done.
    Ok, sure Grant.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

  7. #127
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This appears to be a good initiative by the Obama Administration and one that will be a win for Obama and a win for Putin as well.

    Putin will get the Crimea, as he wanted, and Obama will get credit for stopping Russia from absorbing the entire Ukraine. Perhaps this is the 'flexibility' Obama once referred to.
    Heya Grant. Flexibility?.....Oh is that what they are calling it now.


    Admin officials tell CNN's Barbara Starr this is an "uncontested arrival" not necessarily "an invasion" and that this distinction is "key.".....snip~


    Yeah, I guess they could try and go with that.

  8. #128
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    The anals of history
    Last Seen
    07-25-15 @ 02:05 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    10,348

    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Can't we just leave Kerry there for a few weeks and save the billion $? I don't get the need to throw money at Ukraine at this time.
    You don't get the need? Where have you been the past week?

  9. #129
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:27 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,402

    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Just checking the news outlets for updates on this situation and what I'm seeing is that while Congress and President Obama are pushing for economic sanctions against Russia, Europe is urging the U.S. to slow down and let them set the pace. Why? Because U.S. policy on a European problem will most likely negatively impact our European allies as much or more so than it will Russia.

    Why can't we just slow the **** down, let another 3rd party country take the lead on this. Say Germany? Why must it be us, especially when we appear to be out of step with those most affected? I get the feeling that what Germany and the rest of the EU really want to say to us is "hey...America...chill the **** out, please."
    The Europeans don't have a history of successfully defusing these situations.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  10. #130
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Grant. Flexibility?.....Oh is that what they are calling it now.


    Admin officials tell CNN's Barbara Starr this is an "uncontested arrival" not necessarily "an invasion" and that this distinction is "key.".....snip~


    Yeah, I guess they could try and go with that.
    Hi MMC!

    Obama promised 'flexibility' with Putin after the election, and I'm wondering whether this is it. Obama's Private Message to Putin Overheard | Video - ABC News

Page 13 of 22 FirstFirst ... 31112131415 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •