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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well we agree on that part apdst!
    Heya Monte. Did you see what I had up with Putin De-escalating things? Or that Piece I had up on the Putin Gambit?

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He should have just shutup about it, to begin with. Uh...yeah! Obama planned that whole operation. Right!
    More CON crap.

    So President Obama would have appeared STRONGER by ignoring Syria while a harpy chorus of shrill Congressional CONs demand this that AND the other thing be done???? Seriously?????

    Now who said a damn thing about planning??? BushII didn't plan a damn mission, neither did Reagan, or Ford, or Nixon.... they said 'make it so' and when the plan was up for approval said 'go for it' If the mission had failed the blow back would have been on him, just like the failed rescue mission did on President Carter. As far as ordering other people's sons to die for their country, I don't see that as the first definition of brave. Nor do I see a reluctance to send in the troops everytime someone sneezes as being a coward.

    But do tell me, what unleashing should be done????

    What no-sense are you trying to peddle now?

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He's a coward, because he won't act on the threats that he issues.
    You've been told repeatedly, he tried. He couldn't secure a UN resolution, the UK backed out, he hadn't secured authorisation from congress, 70% of Americans were against it, he's one man, he was stopped. He should have never issued the red line threat that has been interpreted as a threat to use force, until he had secured authorisation to use force. That doesn't make him a coward. Although I'm glad authorisation never came.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He's purged experienced generals for political reasons and abolished DADT.

    Like it, or not, in the eyes of people like Putin, allowing gays to serve openly is a sign of weakness.
    Just another way Conservatives tend to resemble Putin.

    I'll take a gay soldier over a bigoted conservative any day.
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Monte. Did you see what I had up with Putin De-escalating things? Or that Piece I had up on the Putin Gambit?
    Hi MMC. sorry I didn't, I've been stuck in here, lol. Where's it at?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Finally! You're catching on!

    But, if he's going to threaten the use of force, he needs to do it, or shutup about it. His failure to act upon his threats has placed The United States in a weak position.
    No, I'm not FINALLY catching on, I never approved of his threat, and would have been very pissed at him had he attacked Syria. I've never disagreed with you on the threat.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He's purged experienced generals for political reasons and abolished DADT.

    Like it, or not, in the eyes of people like Putin, allowing gays to serve openly is a sign of weakness.
    Oh..."the purge." Yes. I see the right screaming about this a lot. Generals and other high ranking officers who are openly critical of the Commander in Chief getting relieved. That's what happens when you do that ****. Douglas MacArthur found that out the hard way.

    The devil is in the details on that. Having done my research the "purge" isn't such an Obama conspiracy to weaken the military as the right would have you believe.

    And removing DADT didn't actually weaken our military. Just because you postulate that Putin sees us as weaker for allowing gays to serve doesn't mean we are actually weaker.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He's a coward, because he won't act on the threats that he issues.
    I'm pretty sure he was prevented from acting on those threats. And I'm glad he was prevented from doing so.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Just another way Conservatives tend to resemble Putin.

    I'll take a gay soldier over a bigoted conservative any day.
    I'll take the guy who's most likely going to do his job in a firefight. I don't give a **** who, or what he is.

    Ya see? There's the difference between you and I.

    However, image is as important to intimidating the enemy as anything else. Making decisions that bolsters the enemy's morale can create negative concequences on the battlefield.

    The DADT debate is another perfect example of how Libbos put their agenda ahead of what's good for the country.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US prepares $1B aid package for troubled Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I'm pretty sure he was prevented from acting on those threats. And I'm glad he was prevented from doing so.
    Right! Like he's never heard of The War Powers Act. That means he's incompetent.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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