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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I'll bet that Putin is really scared now.
    Well, Putin has to represent the interests of his voters, and as long as he has the support of his voters, he can be sure that he is doing the right thing. Most Russians in the Russian Federation and on the Russian Crimean Peninsula support the referendum and they will respect the dissension of the population of the Crimean Peninsula.

    I do not think that Obama, who has to care about the interests of the people who financed his election expenses (speak the Israel Lobby) is less scared, than Putin.

    Obama was already scared after Netanyahu ordered that USA had to start a war against Syria (which would mean a beginning of a big war), and I have the impression that Obama was very thankful to Putin because he could save his face and evade a war with Syria, which would be another war for Israel.

    Of course Putin and other people with a sound mind are scared, because there are a lot of crazy people, like Netanyahu, who are eager to start WWIII.

    But Obama already blinked in the Syria crises, and that means that Obama is not a crazy nutter that is ready to start WWIII.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post


    Now we start backtracking....who said anything about doing it "without approval of the UNSC"?
    Dude... read the treaty....... the only one backtracking here is you.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Yep. Let's go around promoting conflict with everyone we dislike. Because we're betterer than them.

    Anyone who disagrees is a fat Communist.
    Careful now, Mac represents that comment.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That's absolutely false. The conflict will continue so long as Assad is in power, whether we assist or not. The best thing we can do is propel the most favorable force into a position of power. Assad is a dictator, and the era of dictators is over.
    No it's not unfortunately. And the people you'd like to see in power will be far worse than president Assad. The era that needs to be over is the era of US interference in the internal affairs of sovereign countries, and that looks promising at this point, much as that clearly chaps the ass of those apologists for failed and corrupt US foreign policy.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Democracies are better than dictatorships, and don't let anyone tell you different.
    Except when they're not. Then you send in the CIA and you topple the democracy and install a dictator.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia
    if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine


    Obama threatens to

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the time for warnings is over. The article says they are considering what steps to take. Why don't they already KNOW what steps to take? Why are no contingency plans for this in place already? If our intelligence didn't see this coming? Why not?

    I blame our intelligence community. We spend billions​ of dollars to get a heads up on this type action. What happened?
    It is impossible that no one saw this coming. It seems this has to be a quid pro quo for something we don't know about yet, or it's BHO demonstrating his post-election 'flexibility' promise.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Judging by our 'intelligence' communities major screw-ups on the Iraq kerfuffle and a few other things I'm going to say that the USA's intelligence people are abysmally stupid and incompetent.

    They couldn't pour urine out of a boot with the instructions on the sole.
    There may be some truth to that, but then too, there were those in the intelligence community telling Bush things he didn't want to hear, so he was twisting (fixing) the intelligence, to fit his policy.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Except when they're not. Then you send in the CIA and you topple the democracy and install a dictator.
    The United States, almost singlehandedly, toppled the Evil Empire, thereby freeing millions of people throughout the world.

    If you have an example of any nation doing anything even remotely similar i'd appreciate hearing of it.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    There may be some truth to that, but then too, there were those in the intelligence community telling Bush things he didn't want to hear, so he was twisting (fixing) the intelligence, to fit his policy.
    And you have evidence of this?

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No it's not unfortunately. And the people you'd like to see in power will be far worse than president Assad. The era that needs to be over is the era of US interference in the internal affairs of sovereign countries, and that looks promising at this point, much as that clearly chaps the ass of those apologists for failed and corrupt US foreign policy.
    Worse than Assad, Huh? How do you know this? Are you at all familiar with Assad's history?

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