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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    After the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 Ukraine including the Crimea voted for independence. A majority of Crimeans wanted independence. Ukraine is still a country but is instead being lead by the opposition who command the police and the military, it is not law less, it still has a stable government that will have elections. Ukraine was not taken over by a random armed opposition group, they were overthrown by mostly peaceful protests and is being lead by the former parliamentary opposition.
    And that is exactly why Russia isn't allowing "Independence" to be an option in the Crimean referendum. Because people would choose it.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia!

    Obama draws red line in the sand!

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Still waiting for you to enlighten me, Petey.
    https://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter1.shtml
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    I think you should read that, Pete....maintaining international law is mentioned a few times....Now, why don't you explain to me what it is you think you meant to say to me...
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I think you should read that, Pete....maintaining international law is mentioned a few times....Now, why don't you explain to me what it is you think you meant to say to me...
    Have you read the whole treaty?

    Show me where the enforcement parts are please...show me where the UN has the power, without approval of the UNSC, to enforce international law with their own police units.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Have you read the whole treaty?

    Show me where the enforcement parts are please...show me where the UN has the power, without approval of the UNSC, to enforce international law with their own police units.


    Now we start backtracking....who said anything about doing it "without approval of the UNSC"?
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Why actually, yes, I am a professional. You are aware that there are non AQ/Hizballah/fundamentalist groups active in Syria, yes?
    Yes of course, those are active there too, but pose far less threat to president Assad then the ones I've mentioned, and, Syria will be far worse (probably a complete **** hole) off if president Assad fails to defeat them, then it ever has been during Assad's rule.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes of course, those are active there too, but pose far less threat to president Assad then the ones I've mentioned, and, Syria will be far worse (probably a complete **** hole) off if president Assad fails to defeat them, then it ever has been during Assad's rule.
    That's completely false. The Free Syrian Army is widely (internationally) considered a moderate and secular force. It's the only force in Syria mainly comprised of trained military personnel, and it has been involved in conflicts against many of the more radical rebel elements.

    Supplying and supporting the Free Syrian Army, among other actions, is the best way to end the conflict.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How can one refute nonsense? If you continue to make ridiculous claims you should at least offer up a tea spoon of legitimate evidence for some much needed credibility..
    Where were you last summer when we were on the brink of war in Syria and this board was full of threads concerning it and mountains of evidence by far more than just myself was posted. You are in complete and total denial, if you think the accusations of the Syrian opposition aren't true. I won't be digging them back up for you. If you think Syria will be better off with those opposing him now then it has been with him in power, you're sadly misguided.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Nah, he's sitting back on Miami Beach with Pina Colodas.
    Assad is fighting a war on terror??? Who initiated this 'regime change idea? Nancy Pelosi??
    Neo-cons, all though it looks as though Obama is giving it only a half hearted effort. It could be better, but it could be worse.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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