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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

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    Russia is lucky to have you, isn't it?
    What the hell does that mean. They're doing fine on their own. As though you wouldn't scream like a six year old if they were to install such a system in Canada, said it was defensive, early detection and destruction of potential weapons fired at them by the US.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

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    It's a Gallop poll, what do you mean?

    No, not jealousy, getting the hell out of a country that might be next on the target.
    Nah, it's jealousy.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

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    Nah, it's jealousy.
    Oh I see
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

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    Oh I see
    Good, I'm glad you do.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

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    Good, I'm glad you do.
    Funny you think that when none of the 66,000 polled said that. Most people are in denial, your in good company.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

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    Funny you think that when none of the 66,000 polled said that. Most people are in denial, your in good company.
    Yeah, they said the US is a danger...and I want to live there.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Wow what a surprise, the pro-Russian Crimean Parliament installed last month voted for Putin. It means nothing but you chalk up another victory for your hero.
    Putin is a left-wing autocratic dictator with even less regard for the West than he has for individual liberty. If he was in charge of any other country, the Left would be feting him like they celebrated Chavez. And the only miserable defense you can muster for the utter fail that is this administrations' policy towards Russia is to launch the feeble critique that the people on the side of the aisle whom your guy made fun of for warning us about Putin are secretly fans of his?

    , man. Must be mighty depressing to be a Dem, these days.

    Since all referendums most be country wide to be valid I doubt Putin will get his way legally. Meanwhile the EU is readying a $13 billion euro aid package and has pledged full support for the new Govt. of the Ukraine. Tick,tick, how long before they sign the papers to make Ukraine a formal member?
    Ukraine's GDP per capita is less half of Turkey's, which isn't allowed membership, bringing in the Ukraine when they are still extremely fragile is... very unlikely - especially if Putin makes it clear that he doesn't want them to. but your argument is still that Putin gets' everything he wants, and you count that as a loss for him? Good luck spinning that to anyone beyond those who are Desperate To Believe.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    These are interceptor missiles, purpose designed and many are simply kinetic energy. We have plenty of ways to get offensive missiles just where we need them.

    Anti-ballistic missile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    But they don't work. Our own quarter of a trillion $ system has yet to prove itself once. What they do is encourage another race to build more nukes. Just what the world needs.

    Immediately following the Fourth of July fireworks, the Missile Defense Agency (MDA) tried out some fireworks of its own. By trying to hit a missile with a missile they attempted a demonstration of the defensive “shield,” designed to protect the U.S. from North Korean and Iranian nuclear missiles. It turned out to be a dud. As with the two previous attempts, the Ground Based Missile Defense system once again failed. This failure happened despite the fact that the demonstration was essentially rigged: the intercept team knew ahead of time when to expect the incoming missile and all its relevant flight parameters. Such luxury is obviously not available in real-life combat. But even if the $214 million “test” had worked it would not prove much.
    The Costly Failure of Missile Defense | The Nation

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    But they don't work. Our own quarter of a trillion $ system has yet to prove itself once. What they do is encourage another race to build more nukes. Just what the world needs.

    The Costly Failure of Missile Defense | The Nation
    They dont ALL work yet, but there are effective solutions, and technology continues to improve. Its why Putin does not want this purely defensive shield, which now seems like a nice thing to have.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    They dont ALL work yet, but there are effective solutions, and technology continues to improve. Its why Putin does not want this purely defensive shield, which now seems like a nice thing to have.
    LOL There is no more threatening or offensive capable weapon than a functioning missile shield or even the belief of the enemy that you are building one. It is grounds for war. If you don't understand why that is you are more naive than I thought.
    You also should understand that all missile defense systems can be beaten by building more missiles. ANY system can be overwhelmed.
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