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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

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    I think Obama could learn something from the Clinton years......don't get involved unless you plan to take decisive action, action you're willing to back up with muscle. If you don't think you can do that, stay the hell out of it. You're going to lose the confrontation anyway, and look like a fool doing it. I'm thinking Obama should probably stop at condemning the actions of Russia, because anything else like sanctions or saber-rattling toward a country like Russian don't mean much.
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    Obama lies, yes he does. He can lie and lie and lie and lie and lie as much as he wants, and no sensible person cares, because words don't mean ****.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Here's a basic fact of life. . .

    ALL POLITICIANS LIE

    Obama lies, yes he does. He can lie and lie and lie and lie and lie as much as he wants, and no sensible person cares, because words don't mean ****.

    Only actions matter. Deal w/it.
    I don't have to deal with it, but he will.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    It's always all or nothing with you people. you act like our only options are do nothing or send troops. How about Obama simply tell Putin if he shoots one bullet in the Ukraine HE will impose the strongest sanctions possible on Russia. Then actually stick to his word(for once) and go through with it. But he won't do that. Even today he's sending out Biden to say we're going to pawn it off on "international institutions" to take care of the situation.

    the point is NOBODY(not us, not the Russian, not the planet) expects Obama to show backbone here. If, however, he does I will be the first one to commend him for it.
    Problem is, guy, is that you're not looking at the big picture. For instance, the Chinese have major investments in the Ukraine...and anything that drives a greater wedge between Russia and China is good for America. Furthermore, the eastern half of the Ukraine is strongly pro-Russian, and there's talk of dividing the nation into east and west.

    In other words, there's other factors going on here that most of us in the West don't know about. Besides, this whole situation would be analogous to America trying to - in the American government's opinion - sending troops into Mexico to "protect the Mexican people against tyranny"...and Russia threatening sanctions against us for doing so.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What's the answer, then? Obama's faux threats, that everyone in the world knows he won't act on, aren't doing a very good job.
    Why do we have to do anything at all that involves military options? Where is it written in the Constitution that when Bumf**kistan is being threatened by its neighboring nation, that we have to spend our blood and treasure to go protect them?
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

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    I don't have to deal with it, but he will.
    Looks like he's dealing with it just fine. . .

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    You might want to stay on topic.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Are you the saying you like the 'No Drama Obama' Doctrine versus the 'Bring It On' Doctrine? And a SoS who was welcomed in Ukraine, as well as praised by Netanyahu ?
    Basically yes, though I was disapproving of his action in Libya, but here with the Ukraine, yes. And even the people that are criticising Obama no damn well there's nothing he could or should do, unless you want war with Russia, which some of them even want that.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Which is hilarious for you to say since when Putin sends troops in to Ukraine with no UN authorization you support him. Does Putin have a lust for war?
    It's more hilarious that you compare Putins action which hasn't killed people and destroyed Ukrainian property to what we would have done in Syria. And no, I don't think Putin has a lust for war. He's not even waging a war, and the Ukraine military is not engaging him because they know its legit.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Mr. Obama has a huge advantage with GOP Mr. Cantor helping him.
    I have damned Mr. Cantor to no end in the past, but will now praise him for supporting his President.

    Besides McCain, most GOPs seem to be dialing back.
    With Putin trying to make a legal case for what he did while going forth, he says no Russian troops are in Ukraine.
    Without the EU, we are limited with sanctions, but they will be put out by the USA by the end of the week, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Basically yes, though I was disapproving of his action in Libya, but here with the Ukraine, yes. And even the people that are criticising Obama no damn well there's nothing he could or should do, unless you want war with Russia, which some of them even want that.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    What do Hussein/Clinton have to do with the thread topic, as you have chided another ?
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