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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's a fine argument Monte has there. I'm not sure it qualifies as debate, and no one can take it seriously, but there it is.

    Bunch o' war lovers, tha lot o' ya. Just can't get enough, yum yum.

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    It's refreshing to finally see conservatives admit it.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's a fine argument Monte has there. I'm not sure it qualifies as debate, and no one can take it seriously, but there it is.

    Bunch o' war lovers, tha lot o' ya. Just can't get enough, yum yum.

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    Those that disagree with the Libbos are racists/sexists/homophobes and now, war lovers.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama has the authority act via The War Powers Act. It would have ben perfectly legal.

    Oh, and you need to learn what a representative government is.
    It is not perfectly legal to attack a country that isn't threatening or attacking you. And I prefer a president that follows the will of americans, not his own.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    We cannot attack countries that haven't attacked us or threatened to attack us.
    Cannot or should not?

    Because, like it or not, it's something we do all the ****ing time.

    Because we have "interests".

    So, what?

    Russia can't have interests?

    I say **** Putin and **** Ukraine.

    I don't even want to hear about this nonsense, let alone involve ourselves in it.
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    For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
    And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It is not perfectly legal to attack a country that isn't threatening or attacking you.
    Why not?

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    It's refreshing to finally see conservatives admit it.
    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Cannot or should not?

    Because, like it or not, it's something we do all the ****ing time.

    Because we have "interests".

    So, what?

    Russia can't have interests?

    I say **** Putin and **** Ukraine.

    I don't even want to hear about this nonsense, let alone involve ourselves in it.
    Should not. But why are you talking that way to me. We agree.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Nope, it's not stupid.

    Ever seen a Mom make his kids eat his/her vegetables by telling the child that it will make him/her strong?

    Obama's lie is the exact same thing--it's designed to keep naive individuals (i. e. the pro-war right wing) within the US pacified. That's all.
    Bull**** and nice try to cover for incompetence.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Cannot or should not?

    Because, like it or not, it's something we do all the ****ing time.

    Because we have "interests".

    So, what?

    Russia can't have interests?

    I say **** Putin and **** Ukraine.

    I don't even want to hear about this nonsense, let alone involve ourselves in it.

    Why not **** Russia, got a thing for Putie?

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    The Western powers have to at least place sanctions on Russia if they are not going to help Ukraine. We cannot let Russia invade whoever they want.
    What sanctions are the "Western Powers" going to place on them? I put "Western Powers" in quotes not in the spirit of an arrogant American, but because, whereas America and Canada could quite easily place sanctions on Russia, the EU is in no position to do so.

    The EU are entirely dependent on Russia for their energy resources. We can argue about what got them to that point another day, however the reality is that any sanction we place on Russia, Russia can turn around and hurt the "Western Powers" ten times worse with sanctions of their own.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Bull**** and nice try to cover for incompetence.
    What's bull!@#$ is the utter failure of any of the right wingers to convince us why/how inaction to Putin's latest act amounts to incompetence.

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