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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

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    I'm not complaining. I'm criticizing.
    Criticizing a politician for lying is like criticizing water for being wet.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What's the answer, then? Obama's faux threats, that everyone in the world knows he won't act on, aren't doing a very good job.
    He did get it wrong a little. He wasn't supposed to sqeek with a loud voice and wigle a tiny twig.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Criticizing a politician for lying is like criticizing water for being wet.

    Words are irrelevant. Actions are the only thing that matters.
    I'm not criticizing his for lying. I'm criticizing him for being a weak leader and thereby compromising our national security.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm not criticizing his for lying. I'm criticizing him for being a weak leader and thereby compromising our national security.
    Explain to us what exactly what exactly is weak about not doing anything about Putin's actions in Crimea (i. e. invading a territory that wants him to invade).

    And explain how that weakens the territorial security of the US mainland.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It seems to me everyone agrees Obama should stop making threats, and what then, you ask? Nothing, we should do nothing because its quite legitimate that Putin would enter the area and secure his assets, and he's not killing civilians and destroying infrastructure like the US does when we send our military in to places.
    I never said he should stop making threats. I think he should convince the world that he isn't going to chicken out, when it's time to make good on those threats.

    You just can't stand that Putin has the moral high ground in this.
    By that logic, Hitler had the moral high ground, too.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm not criticizing his for lying. I'm criticizing him for being a weak leader and thereby compromising our national security.
    Oh please, Russia in Crimea has had zero effect on our security. Why are you always fearful of our security?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I never said he should stop making threats. I think he should convince the world that he isn't going to chicken out, when it's time to make good on those threats.
    And there you have it folks

    . . .the conservatives actually believed that Obama made those threats w/the intent of following through on them.

    Point proven

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I never said he should stop making threats. I think he should convince the world that he isn't going to chicken out, when it's time to make good on those threats.



    By that logic, Hitler had the moral high ground, too.
    We don't need to be trying to punish Putin for securing his assets. And stop comparing him to Hitler, you look foolish.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Explain to us what exactly what exactly is weak about not doing anything about Putin's actions in Crimea (i. e. invading a territory that wants him to invade).

    And explain how that weakens the territorial security of the US mainland.
    It all started when he pussed out in Syria. No one is going to take him seriously and now he's making more threats. He's a laughing stock.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh please, Russia in Crimea has had zero effect on our security. Why are you always fearful of our security?
    What he means is that Obama should act more like Bush on 9/11 and successfully defend the US when it's attacked.

    Wait a minute. . .

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