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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Hell if I know. There's one way to find out. One thing's for sure, shooting your mouth off on TV, making hollow threats isn't going to to accomplish anything.

    Who said anything about invading Russia? And, before you start trying to inject history into the conversation, at least be able to explain WHY Napoleon's and Hitler's invasions of Russia failed.
    Agreed, he shouldn't be making hollow or solid threats. Putin moving to secure his assets isn't a threat to us or world peace. This whole thing has been hugely blown out of proportion.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Which Conservatives believe Obama??? They would probably just be criticizing his predictable rhetoric.
    If they never believed him about his threats, then why are they acting shocked that he didn't follow through with them, which is what they're complaining about in this thread?

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I know, but history is repeat with people and countries who supposedly couldn't afford a war that still went to war. Supposed according to the news a lot of the troops are now returning to their barracks. That is a good thing.
    Those countries lost, too.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Of course you think that Putin is a hero and can't be intimidated.



    What makes you say that? The Russians don't have anything we don't.
    Because I think Putin hasn't done anything wrong in the Ukraine, doesn't mean I think he's a hero. Obama hasn't done anything wrong either and he's not my hero. Unless its true that he was in the Ukraine fomenting the coup to begin with as accused.

    It's not that I doubt in the end that the US would prevail, it's that it would cost way too much. And for what, to protect the half of Ukrainians interests that are disgruntled at Russia? **** that.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    If they never believed him about his threats, then why are they acting shocked that he didn't follow through with them, which is what they're complaining about in this thread?
    Who is shocked that he didn't carry through with them?
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Those countries lost, too.
    And what did it cost??
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Who is shocked that he didn't carry through with them?
    If you weren't shocked, then you wouldn't be complaining about him not following through with his threats because that behavior would be expected.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    There are times, guy, when war is NOT the answer...or didn't you learn anything from Iraq (which turned out just as Bush 41 warned, which warning Bush 43 ignored)? It is stupid, absolutely insane for the two nations with the most nuclear weapons to engage in direct combat with each other...because then it does not matter that our military is better than theirs, because we can't shoot down their nukes.
    What's the answer, then? Obama's faux threats, that everyone in the world knows he won't act on, aren't doing a very good job.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    If you weren't shocked, then you wouldn't be complaining about him not following through with his threats because that behavior would be expected.
    I'm not complaining. I'm criticizing.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What's the answer, then? Obama's faux threats, that everyone in the world knows he won't act on, aren't doing a very good job.
    It seems to me everyone agrees Obama should stop making threats, and what then, you ask? Nothing, we should do nothing because its quite legitimate that Putin would enter the area and secure his assets, and he's not killing civilians and destroying infrastructure like the US does when we send our military in to places. You just can't stand that Putin has the moral high ground in this.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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