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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You mean Obama's a Liar.

    Yes that is old news.
    But it's not to you, or else you wouldn't be bringing it up here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Aa far as Iran and Israel are concerned I beleive minus Israel's stock pile of nukes and our past support they would have been whiped out long ago.

    The problem with being a perennial liar is now people like Putin, and Assad and Rhouani know they dealing with a incompetent amatuer.
    putin, assad, and rouhani aren't gullible like the average American Joe; they know that Obama isn't going to be silly enough to intervene in their affairs and so they knew that all his threats were empty political fluff right off the bat.

    It was only the conservatives who believed (God knows why) that O might be telling the truth when making those threats, and so that's why there's now up in arms about him not following through on it; in other words, conservatives failed to recognize that water is wet.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    To call Putin's bluff; with the assurance that American aircraft will provide air support for Ukrainian and Crimean forces.
    Do you really believe it would work?
    Russians has one of the best air defense system by now.

    However, Napoleon and Hitler failed to invade Russia, even tho the differences in army were huge. I doubt anyone today can achieve it. No one can win on those lands against Russians.
    Russia does not fight today only with rifle as used to fight the Nazi.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't know if they would or not, but I was agreeing with apdst that if we place sanctions, we should be prepared for them to attack.
    Attack whom?

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    Do you really believe it would work?
    Russians has one of the best air defense system by now.

    However, Napoleon and Hitler failed to invade Russia, even tho the differences in army were huge. I doubt anyone today can achieve it. No one can win on those lands against Russians.
    Russia does not fight today only with rifle as used to fight the Nazi.
    Even if it did work, the cost to us would be HUGE, and we wouldn't even have been defending ourselves, but a disgruntled portion of the Ukrainian people. The whole idea is silly as I think you are aware.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    It's always all or nothing with you people. you act like our only options are do nothing or send troops.
    So you're saying the US govt. should nuke Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    How about Obama simply tell Putin if he shoots one bullet in the Ukraine HE will impose the strongest sanctions possible on Russia.
    He could certainly do that, but Congress will just eliminate them (in secrecy), because of this. . .

    Russia operations | ExxonMobil

    American 101: Congress' first allegiance is to oil cos.

    If those sanctions were enacted, Putin will then just boot Exxon from Russian territory, and then Exxon will bitch to Congress, and Congress will get rid of the sanctions, so that Exxon can get back into Russia. Case closed

    Even otherwise, it makes no sense to do anything because invading a territory that actually welcomes the invaders is not exactly a humanitarian crisis

    But you see, conservatives don't know this, because their heroes at fauxnews, hannity, limbaugh, etc. all told them that the Russia forced its way into Crimea in opposition to the will of the Crimean people, and since conservatives are completely unaware of the world outside limbaugh, well, . . .

    that's why they're going ballistic.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post

    It was only the conservatives who believed (God knows why) that O might be telling the truth when making those threats, and so that's why there's now up in arms about him not following through on it; in other words, conservatives failed to recognize that water is wet.
    Which Conservatives believe Obama??? They would probably just be criticizing his predictable rhetoric.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    Do you really believe it would work?
    Russians has one of the best air defense system by now.

    However, Napoleon and Hitler failed to invade Russia, even tho the differences in army were huge. I doubt anyone today can achieve it. No one can win on those lands against Russians.
    Russia does not fight today only with rifle as used to fight the Nazi.
    Neither Napoleon or Hitler had ICBMs.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Attack whom?
    In apdst scenario above it would likely be us, could be EU targets if they followed through. Could be they wouldn't attack anybody at all, but it wouldn't be imprudent to consider. Economic warfare too wouldn't be good for the EU.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    Do you really believe it would work?
    Russians has one of the best air defense system by now.

    However, Napoleon and Hitler failed to invade Russia, even tho the differences in army were huge. I doubt anyone today can achieve it. No one can win on those lands against Russians.
    Russia does not fight today only with rifle as used to fight the Nazi.
    Hell if I know. There's one way to find out. One thing's for sure, shooting your mouth off on TV, making hollow threats isn't going to to accomplish anything.

    Who said anything about invading Russia? And, before you start trying to inject history into the conversation, at least be able to explain WHY Napoleon's and Hitler's invasions of Russia failed.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't think you can call Putins bluff on this...
    Of course you think that Putin is a hero and can't be intimidated.

    if our air support did target Russian forces, I don't think you or I would be happy with the result.
    What makes you say that? The Russians don't have anything we don't.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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