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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    In official state-run media, the Chinese government has accused the West of maintaining a "Cold War mentality" against Russia in the contest for influence in Ukraine, and of "meddling" in Ukraine's affairs by manipulating popular opinion against Russia to favor Western interests.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    There is always that, isn't there? One has to to play these thing carefully and I hope close to the vest. Russia isn't Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, or Libya. It isn't even Iran or North Korea, one better be careful.
    We need to show some balls. Putin can't afford an all out war anymore than we can; less even.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Ability is the key, which they have in the Ukraine. What other countries do you think Russia could or would attack?

    Russia is no Superpower but Putin has the country behaving like one, and only because of weak leadership elsewhere.
    I don't know if they would or not, but I was agreeing with apdst that if we place sanctions, we should be prepared for them to attack.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We need to show some balls. Putin can't afford an all out war anymore than we can; less even.
    What would those balls be?
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    This is largely a distraction Putin is creating for what is a crumbling economy in Russia. He's also a half-nuts KGB lifer who wants nothing more than to see the Soviet Union restored. That said, if Ukraine is trying to westernize, we should help them. You don't have to fire a weapon to show military strength.

    The wild card is China, who is lending a hint of support for Russia.

    Putin is crazy. Obama is lost and clueless. That's a scary concoction.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    This is largely a distraction Putin is creating for what is a crumbling economy in Russia. He's also a half-nuts KGB lifer who wants nothing more than to see the Soviet Union restored. That said, if Ukraine is trying to westernize, we should help them. You don't have to fire a weapon to show military strength.

    The wild card is China, who is lending a hint of support for Russia.

    Putin is crazy. Obama is lost and clueless. That's a scary concoction.
    China is sympathetic towards Russia on this and has nearly accused the US of fomenting the coup to begin with. They've seen all this over and over and I think they're clearly tired of it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    In official state-run media, the Chinese government has accused the West of maintaining a "Cold War mentality" against Russia in the contest for influence in Ukraine, and of "meddling" in Ukraine's affairs by manipulating popular opinion against Russia to favor Western interests.
    What does Chinese propaganda have to do with anything?

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What would those balls be?
    A carrier task force in the Black Sea.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    What does Chinese propaganda have to do with anything?
    True! It's about as relevant as US propaganda.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't know if they would or not, but I was agreeing with apdst that if we place sanctions, we should be prepared for them to attack.
    Why do you keep insisting that I said that? What's wrong with you?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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