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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes Pero, but they don't get this!
    Shame,
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    War mongers don't care about that, lets just start kicking some ass!
    I think the person who originally mentioned the carriers in the Black Sea did so tongue in cheek as a response to a post of mine. A move like that would be asinine both in a political and military sense.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And I would again ask you, are you not aware that what Putin did is an act of War?
    You know, the 4-Nation agreement in 1993 where Sen. Lugar paid how much treasure for Ukraine's nukes.
    I am.

    I am confused though how another act of war results in a peaceful settlement. Or was I mistaken about your post? I thought you were offering an alternative to all out warfare.

    My apologies if I was mistaken.

    Having said that, I doubt anyone wants a full scale war in eastern Europe
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Nice to see you acknowledge that economic pressure is considered an act of war.
    When did I say that?
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    No problem them, that I know of anyway.
    I don't know who owns those waters; if there's any international agreement making the straights neutral territory.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't know who owns those waters; if there's any international agreement making the straights neutral territory.
    You said that when we put sanctions on Russia, we need to be prepared for them to respond militarily. Which is correct. If you cripple a country economically, and they have the ability to, they will attack you. Should be a good lesson learned, unless you're hoping they will attack you and then that's a whole other story.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Vladimer will pull out at the last possible second... smiling to himself.
    It seems this might be the area where Obama promised to be "flexible" after the election. Russia will take over the Crimea with bluster and posturing being the only response. The real question is whether Putin will advance beyond the Crimea.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You said that when we put sanctions on Russia, we need to be prepared for them to respond militarily. Which is correct. If you cripple a country economically, and they have the ability to, they will attack you. Should be a good lesson learned, unless you're hoping they will attack you and then that's a whole other story.
    I never said that.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You said that when we put sanctions on Russia, we need to be prepared for them to respond militarily. Which is correct. If you cripple a country economically, and they have the ability to, they will attack you. Should be a good lesson learned, unless you're hoping they will attack you and then that's a whole other story.
    Ability is the key, which they have in the Ukraine. What other countries do you think Russia could or would attack?

    Russia is no Superpower but Putin has the country behaving like one, and only because of weak leadership elsewhere.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I never said that.
    And it's unlikely you would. If you cripple a country economically it's doubtful they would be attacking anyone.

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