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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Who says they don't? Just because "your" eyes and ears don't know about it doesn't mean there isn't a plan in place already. This is a very fragile issue, and any hastily made action could be for the detriment of the world as a whole. Look at what Kennedy did in the face of near nuclear war, he had patience.
    Obama is no Kennedy. Do you disagree?

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Obama is no Kennedy. Do you disagree?
    Agreed--Obama does not cheat on his wife in the White House or anywhere else we know of--Obama was not born with the silver spoon with a rum-running father--agreed
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    We have an administration led by a guy who thinks he is smarter than his Intelligence Community, and who is actively distrustful of his senior military and intelligence advisers, and apparently thinks, after having had the rug yanked out from under him multiple times, that Russia can be trusted to act as a good-faith player.

    What makes you think that the President didn't get any warning, vice simply ignoring the warnings that he got because A) he isn't terribly interested in national security outside of doing the minimum to make sure it doesn't become a problem (that's why we drone people) and B) isn't terribly interested in Ukraine? Heck, the assessment that Russia is probably going to pull something like this has been available in Open Source materials for some time now - he could have read the friggin Washington Post, if he actually wanted to spin up contingency planning.

    I sincerely doubt the President is or was surprised. I also sincerely doubt that he really cares. Which is why I sincerely doubt that we will do anything beyond rhetoric. Which is why (to answer your question) the future will be long on "threats" and "consultation with allies" and "opinions of the global community" and short on "actions."
    I'm not necessarily affording him this, but he could just be the first president of America (of late) that realises that there are interests other than ours.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Seeing all the Obama apologists reminds me of an old joke.

    A guy is out with his friend at a restaurant, and his buddy jokes as he always does saying "I hate my wife".
    The guy laughs as he always does but the next day they are again getting dinner-when they see his buddies wife out on the street getting beaten by some thugs-and the guy tells his friend "cmon, lets go help her!", but his friend replies "naa, she probably deserves it."

    These are liberals ugliest days.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We have a weak president, and everyone knows it. This is what happens when we elect chumps like Obama or Carter. The world respects resolve and the threat of force.
    No, every one doesn't know it. While I'm personally disgusted with him, I don't believe he's done anything wrong concerning Ukraine, yet anyway. You partisans on the other hand could never be satisfied with him, even if he did what you thought was right, he'd still have brown skin. Your racism is evident in every ****ing post. You should just go try (emphasis there) to be a good doctor.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    We have an administration led by a guy who thinks he is smarter than his Intelligence Community, and who is actively distrustful of his senior military and intelligence advisers, and apparently thinks, after having had the rug yanked out from under him multiple times, that Russia can be trusted to act as a good-faith player.

    What makes you think that the President didn't get any warning, vice simply ignoring the warnings that he got because A) he isn't terribly interested in national security outside of doing the minimum to make sure it doesn't become a problem (that's why we drone people) and B) isn't terribly interested in Ukraine? Heck, the assessment that Russia is probably going to pull something like this has been available in Open Source materials for some time now - he could have read the friggin Washington Post, if he actually wanted to spin up contingency planning.

    I sincerely doubt the President is or was surprised. I also sincerely doubt that he really cares. Which is why I sincerely doubt that we will do anything beyond rhetoric. Which is why (to answer your question) the future will be long on "threats" and "consultation with allies" and "opinions of the global community" and short on "actions."
    While your doubting, do you doubt the power of a US president?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, every one doesn't know it. While I'm personally disgusted with him, I don't believe he's done anything wrong concerning Ukraine, yet anyway. You partisans on the other hand could never be satisfied with him, even if he did what you thought was right, he'd still have brown skin. Your racism is evident in every ****ing post. You should just go try (emphasis there) to be a good doctor.
    You are a Japan and Russia apologist, and resorting to false accusations of racism reveals you have no ground on which to make a stand.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Putin is far too financially involved in trade with the G8.
    He is playing a game to see how much they need him and mother Russia.
    Putin s protecting his interests much as the US does which is just fine with you.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Than are we at war with Iran also?
    Of course, ask them!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Agreed--Obama does not cheat on his wife in the White House or anywhere else we know of--Obama was not born with the silver spoon with a rum-running father--agreed
    That was a good one dude, true too!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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