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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    The 6:00 Eastern edition of FOX is the most informative news I can find.
    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I've made that clear and YOU proposed a couple yourself.
    I've shown you that yours were empty threats and asked you to show how they aren't a few times now. Still waiting.
    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/0...181.html?hp=l9
    link looks wrong, but I got it to work.
    Yet it was the POTUSA in 2001, GWB, who spoke glowingly of V. Putin during their first meeting, after "looking in his eyes".
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    So yes, we criticize Obama, and Kerry, but not jut based on ideology.

    It's based on what seems to be a foreign policy that's utterly lacking in coherency. Do I need to remind you Libs of the ' reset ' button, and Obama's claim in his State of the Union Address that "American diplomacy, backed by the threat of force, is why Syria's chemical weapons are being eliminated."

    Really ?

    His pledge of Military action in Syria just confirmed to every dictator that any future threats from Obama are going to be empty.
    You mean like how Iran's threat of wiping out Israel is empty? Or how Saddam's threat of wiping out the US military was empty?

    Anyone w/an iota of noodle already knows that politicians, including Obama, say things to the masses to appease them, while doing something else entirely. This is old news.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    So exactly what empty threats are you referring to on the Ukraine?
    While Sen. Rubio is taking the Air Force off the table, Sen. McCain goes off in the other direction.
    Meanwhile, I can watch Krauthammer--G. Will--Mara Liasson on the Special Report .
    I believe it's not the empty threats referring to Ukraine, it's all the empty threats of Obama's past that now no country takes what Obama says with any concern.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The 6:00 Eastern edition of FOX is the most informative news I can find.

    After Vladimir Putin, the right fires at media - Tal Kopan and Mackenzie Weinger - POLITICO.com
    link looks wrong, but I got it to work.
    Yet it was the POTUSA in 2001, GWB, who spoke glowingly of V. Putin during their first meeting, after "looking in his eyes".
    That is true..............
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I've made that clear and YOU proposed a couple yourself.
    I've shown you that yours were empty threats and asked you to show how they aren't a few times now. Still waiting.
    If push ever came to shove, the port at Istanbul as well as the opening to the Aegean Sea are an easy blockade.
    Yet I specifically have heard and read House Intelligence Chairman, a RBFD named Rogers, say that moving our Navy is 'OFF THE TABLE'.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia
    if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine


    Obama threatens to

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the time for warnings is over. The article says they are considering what steps to take. Why don't they already KNOW what steps to take? Why are no contingency plans for this in place already? If our intelligence didn't see this coming? Why not?

    I blame our intelligence community. We spend billions​ of dollars to get a heads up on this type action. What happened?
    Easy...the NSA is too busy spying on the people that they are suppose to be serving and protecting.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    You mean like how Iran's threat of wiping
    out Israel is empty? Or how Saddam's threat of wiping out the US military was empty?

    Anyone w/an iota of noodle already knows that politicians, including Obama, say things to the masses to appease them, while doing something else entirely. This is old news.

    You mean Obama's a Liar.

    Yes that is old news.

    Aa far as Iran and Israel are concerned I beleive minus Israel's stock pile of nukes and our past support they would have been whiped out long ago.

    The problem with being a perennial liar is now people like Putin, and Assad and Rhouani know they dealing with a incompetent amatuer.

    Dictators tend to take advanatage of things like that.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    You mean like how Iran's threat of wiping out Israel is empty?
    What they are now not interested in wiping out Israel?

    Or how Saddam's threat of wiping out the US military was empty?
    You put Saddam on the same level as the president of the US

    Anyone w/an iota of noodle already knows that politicians, including Obama, say things to the masses to appease them, while doing something else entirely. This is old news.
    Well now the world knows when Obama speaks of a RED Line, it is no line at all. Obama went into an agreement for Syria to get rid of WMD in 90 days or something like that and guess what nothing has happened. No WMD has moved, no one now cares what Obama says, including Iran. In fact Putin tells Obama to jump and how high.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Then you are against what one wing of the GOP is publicly calling for?
    How do you feel about the GOP's many wings attacking the POTUS this early into a crisis created by Putin ?
    A crisis created by Putin???
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia
    if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine


    Obama threatens to

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the time for warnings is over. The article says they are considering what steps to take. Why don't they already KNOW what steps to take? Why are no contingency plans for this in place already? If our intelligence didn't see this coming? Why not?

    I blame our intelligence community. We spend billions​ of dollars to get a heads up on this type action. What happened?


    Yeah, you know I would have to agree with that.

    Especially since a senior US State Department official is on tape admitting to CIA fifth column activity. Add to that that Putin warned Bush way back when that Russia did not recognize the Ukraine as a legitimate state and that any attempt to exert Western influence would be met with force. On CBC radio today Putn was quoted as then saying he would "tear it apart".

    Seems like that exactly what has happened.

    So we appear to again have a situation where the US State department has created a problem without having considered what to once their dog actually did catch the car.


    Having said that, does anyone really want an all out war in eastern Europe? Can the Us debt handle it?


    And, will the NATO countries go along with another US war after 12 years in Afghanistan, Iran, Libya and the almost raid on Syria?

    Mr. Putin ha splayed his hand very wisely testing the resolve of the rookie president in the middle east, then attacking when the US can't afford another war on yet another front.

    The west won the Cold War when Kremlin was broke, had been unable to pay or refresh its military since Afghanistan and the people wanted American made jeans and Big Macs.

    Today, the US is broke and tired and Russia doesn't need American made anything since you contracted everything out to China.
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