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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Are you good with a dozen GOP war-mongers shooting off their mouths, playing into Putin's hands?
    Yep. They have as much of a right to war monger since they're elected as any left wing wingnut shooting their mouths off about anything else. It's freedom of speech, not freedom of speech you agree with.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Are you saying this Putin crisis is another event when the POTUS and SoS are not allowed to speak ?
    I wish they wouldn't, for their own sakes - no one elses. But they have the freedom to spout off and threaten while looking foolish and certainly have done so.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Are you good with a dozen GOP war-mongers shooting off their mouths, playing into Putin's hands?
    Are you saying this Putin crisis is another event when the POTUS and SoS are not allowed to speak ?
    Sorry NIM, I don't understand your second question.

    Can ya' explain further?

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Three times you've said this! I don't think you have to worry about being confused for a patriot.
    Just want to be sure to separate myself from those that are so patriotic as to be blind to the realities of USA. And you're right, I hate bullies, and USA is nothing anymore if not a bully. So my observations and opinions are reality, not dedication to the country. Should say, some of our extreme conservatives had posted similar, it would mostly be patriotism, forgive me if I don't want to accidentally get in an ilk such as that.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Would you prefer war as GOP war-mongers did in Syria ?
    The Syrian situation isn't this situation. And your partisan hate aside, I've already made it clear here that I am not at all for the US intervening in this.

    You still haven't answered the questions though - those sanctions you suggest, just how to you suppose those sanctions are to be put in place? By whom. And the blockade you suggested, who is going to do that and how?
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    US intelligence not only dropped the ball on this one, they let it disappear down a mine shaft.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The Syrian situation isn't this situation. And your partisan hate aside, I've already made it clear here that I am not at all for the US intervening here.

    You still haven't answered the questions though - those sanctions you suggest, just how to you suppose those sanctions are to be put in place? By whom. And the blockade you suggested, who is going to do that and how?
    For sure EU won't do none of them.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Just want to be sure to separate myself from those that are so patriotic as to be blind to the realities of USA. And you're right, I hate bullies, and USA is nothing anymore if not a bully. So my observations and opinions are reality, not dedication to the country. Should say, some of our extreme conservatives had posted similar, it would mostly be patriotism, forgive me if I don't want to accidentally get in an ilk such as that.
    Don't worry, I expect you to take the most anti-American attitude and viewpoint available. Of course you are doing this while benefiting form to freedoms these "patriots" win for you, but it's par for the course for someone with your character.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Don't worry, I expect you to take the most anti-American attitude and viewpoint available. Of course you are doing this while benefiting form to freedoms these "patriots" win for you, but it's par for the course for someone with your character.
    No one has provided me with freedoms I couldn't have gotten in dozens of other countries that don't have the outrageous outflow of tax dollars to the MIC.
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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Are you good with a dozen GOP war-mongers shooting off their mouths, playing into Putin's hands?
    Are you saying this Putin crisis is another event when the POTUS and SoS are not allowed to speak ?
    Not everyone is in the bag for their political party on all issues, YOU of all people should know that. Regardless, sure they're allowed to speak, but we would hope they wouldn't say the dumbest things as they have been. There's plenty of blame for this to go around and as an American I judge my president and secty of state's part in this. They're making empty threats after they've failed diplomatically for years. So yes, considering they're just making the US look worse and worse every time they open their mouths, perhaps they should shut the hell up.

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    Re: Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    NATO is nothing but an excuse to do nothing. It is a defense negative. A joke. It would be far better to tell every NATO country "defend yourself" and we'd decide if anything happened if wished to involve. This would force them to built up far more than now.

    Why do we defend Germany? That's nuts. They are the richest country in Europe. Spend their own money. Develop their own military. They don't back us up on anything anyway.
    Those bases are not their for the defence of Germany. Their heavy use in the Iraq and Afghanistan war tells you that much.

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