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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    He has done business with her in the past. Did he not know her opinion on gay marriage then? I agree you shouldn't have to do business with people you do not want to. Keep in mind that this is the context of the Arizona bill where the gay community was all up in arms about. They did not think it was fair for a business to refuse service based on personal beliefs, which is exactly what is happening here.
    Discriminating against homosexuals based on irrational prejudice hurts innocent people. Discriminating against jackass politicians who openly want to persecute you is entirely reasonable. Not all "personal beliefs" are morally equivalent.

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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

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    Discriminating against homosexuals based on irrational prejudice hurts innocent people.
    No, it doesn't. Denying someone service or employment doesn't cause them any harm.

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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I completely agree and passionately support equality for everyone. My feelings on this issue are that you best serve it when you practice what you preach. So one should try to live it themselves. Even when it is profoundly difficult. Otherwise aren't you just trading places with them? (turning THEM away because of YOUR personal beliefs)
    The liberal idea that "all opinions are equally valid" is nonsense. The people against homosexuality cannot provide any evidence of why it is objectively harmful. By contrast, I can provide tangible examples of the harm caused by people discriminating against homosexuals. My arguments based on facts and logic do in fact trump irrational blind prejudice.

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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    He just wanted his name in paper and now can claim a hero status down at the bar.

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    Re: Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex

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    Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex marriage* - NY Daily News

    Soooo, here it is, the other side of the coin. For all of you who cheered the veto of the Arizona protection of religion bill, we now have the flip side. Governor Martinez' hairdresser refuses to do business with her any more because of her views on gay marriage. Anyone want to try to defend this bigotry? After all the claims of Equality, it seems that equality really ISN'T the point after all.

    Personally, I'd sue his panties off just to make a point.
    Why on earth does this make you think equality isn't the goal? Instead of jumping to the conclusion that us liberals were just speechless from your perfect debate, you should consider the possibility that there were few replies because your thread is stupid with a nonsensical premise.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The liberal idea that "all opinions are equally valid" is nonsense. The people against homosexuality cannot provide any evidence of why it is objectively harmful. By contrast, I can provide tangible examples of the harm caused by people discriminating against homosexuals. My arguments based on facts and logic do in fact trump irrational blind prejudice.
    All opinions are not equally valid, and anyone who thinks that is a "liberal idea" is delusional.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate View Post
    Sue him if he wants to be treated equelly and fairly by people who are against his lifestyle, he should then treat those with a lifestyle or opinion he is against equally as the children in the USA say the golden rule? I'm gay and I think this guy is an idiot and he is one of the many reasons that kind of slow down progress in the LGBT community
    He did not drop her as a client because she was a woman, hispanic, straight, a republican[she was his client before], her relgious beliefs...on what grounds would she sue? How did he violate her civil rights? Is a bleach job and a blow out a right?

    Why did he slow down progress?

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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    All opinions are not equally valid, and anyone who thinks that is a "liberal idea" is delusional.
    Plenty of your fellow liberals espouse that particular belief. I am aware its not universal, but it was specifically brought up in this thread by a liberal poster.

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    Re: Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex marriage* - NY Daily News

    Soooo, here it is, the other side of the coin. For all of you who cheered the veto of the Arizona protection of religion bill, we now have the flip side. Governor Martinez' hairdresser refuses to do business with her any more because of her views on gay marriage. Anyone want to try to defend this bigotry? After all the claims of Equality, it seems that equality really ISN'T the point after all.

    Personally, I'd sue his panties off just to make a point.
    which of her civil rights did he violate?

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    Re: Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex

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    Just wanted to point out I was mistaken (i.e. wrong). This thread's state location is New Mexico not Arizona, homosexuals are covered under NM's Employment and Public Accommodation laws, but of course politicians are not.


    I'll now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.


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