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    Re: Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex

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    I don't think so. She does not qualify as a protected class as a recipient of discrimination in this situation.
    and there's the rub. everyone should be protected equally. setting up special "protected classes" is discriminatory in and of itself.
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    Re: Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex

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    Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex marriage* - NY Daily News

    Soooo, here it is, the other side of the coin. For all of you who cheered the veto of the Arizona protection of religion bill, we now have the flip side. Governor Martinez' hairdresser refuses to do business with her any more because of her views on gay marriage. Anyone want to try to defend this bigotry? After all the claims of Equality, it seems that equality really ISN'T the point after all.

    Personally, I'd sue his panties off just to make a point.
    Huh? So one gay hair stylist represents everyone who thinks states shouldn't laws allowing bigotry?
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    Re: Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex

    Being gay is not a personal belief. Of Christian groups were proposing to discriminate against gay rights supporters, then your post would be more accurate.

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    He has done business with her in the past. Did he not know her opinion on gay marriage then? I agree you shouldn't have to do business with people you do not want to. Keep in mind that this is the context of the Arizona bill where the gay community was all up in arms about. They did not think it was fair for a business to refuse service based on personal beliefs, which is exactly what is happening here.

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    Re: Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex

    I worked at a spa, and one of the best stylist was a gay man. Obviously gay. I was there once and a husband and wife came in for him. While he was cutting his hair with the wife nearby, made a comment about some guy on the radio being gorgeous. The wife made a scene about them being fine with him being gay as long as he didn't put it in their face, because they liked his work.

    He said nothing at all. When they left, they acted everything was cool, because he acted gracious and professional through the whole thing. But I couldn't blame him of he didn't keep seeing them. I thought the scene they caused was uncalled for, and over something stupid. They just wanted to make their point. But you ought to have your respect when you work.



    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I completely agree and passionately support equality for everyone. My feelings on this issue are that you best serve it when you practice what you preach. So one should try to live it themselves. Even when it is profoundly difficult. Otherwise aren't you just trading places with them? (turning THEM away because of YOUR personal beliefs)

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    Re: Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex

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    I don't think so. She does not qualify as a protected class as a recipient of discrimination in this situation.
    Discrimination is illegal. Period.
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    Re: Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I worked at a spa, and one of the best stylist was a gay man. Obviously gay. I was there once and a husband and wife came in for him. While he was cutting his hair with the wife nearby, made a comment about some guy on the radio being gorgeous. The wife made a scene about them being fine with him being gay as long as he didn't put it in their face, because they liked his work.

    He said nothing at all. When they left, they acted everything was cool, because he acted gracious and professional through the whole thing. But I couldn't blame him of he didn't keep seeing them. I thought the scene they caused was uncalled for, and over something stupid. They just wanted to make their point. But you ought to have your respect when you work.
    I completely agree with you and I don't "blame" him either. For me I have a great deal of respect for the way the stylist in your story chose to handle the situation. That is so difficult but so effective. If there is any hope for those close minded bigots who treated him that way, they felt incredibly guilty for their behavior when they got home and I would bet that his gracious manner made that more likely. Like everything else in life however, there are a multitude of ways to handle any situation and no one option is always best suited for every circumstance. In all honesty, my gut tells me to pop in the nose but that doesn't really change hearts and minds.
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    Re: Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex

    If your favorite stylist is male and it never occurred to you that he may be gay, you really need to open your eyes some.

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    Re: Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex

    I doubt they felt any guilt or shame. They were probably proud for standing up for their morals. I was shocked when they created that scene, neither of them showed shame.

    Gay men usually act pretty gracious in confrontational situations like that. That is based on what I have seen in high school and beyond. They don't add fuel to the fire or want to physically or verbally go off.



    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I completely agree with you and I don't "blame" him either. For me I have a great deal of respect for the way the stylist in your story chose to handle the situation. That is so difficult but so effective. If there is any hope for those close minded bigots who treated him that way, they felt incredibly guilty for their behavior when they got home and I would bet that his gracious manner made that more likely. Like everything else in life however, there are a multitude of ways to handle any situation and no one option is always best suited for every circumstance. In all honesty, my gut tells me to pop in the nose but that doesn't really change hearts and minds.

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    Re: Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I doubt they felt any guilt or shame. They were probably proud for standing up for their morals. I was shocked when they created that scene, neither of them showed shame.
    Unfortunately, you're probably right on that one.
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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

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    THis thread is just another perfect example of how many people have no clue what law, facts and rights are.

    Just people confusing "feelings" and opinion and biased "emotion" with facts and it shows bad.

    Illegal discrimination has very specific definitions, they vary some by state, county municipality but they are defined. If it doesn't fit that definition then its not illegal, if it does then it is illegal

    Never understood why some people cant grasp this very simply concept.
    It's just like the people who think that just because something is law that it must be based in rights. Or that appeal to authority makes a proper argument.

    Never understood why some people can't grasp this very simple concept.
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