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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    exactly the problem is no one has sued them yet. i think people should start playing their own game and start sueing these gay only businesses and sites for discrimination.
    if they want to play the discrimination game then lets play the discrimination game.
    May as well. Straight white Christians being passive seems to be a bad thing these days.

    When people clamor for "equality", it doesn't mean that they want to uplift the minority. It means they want to drag down the majority.

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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    1. I'm not "outraged", personally I don't have a problem with any business tailoring it's business model as they see fit. My opinion of what the law should be and how the law functions are two different things.

    2. You don't have to be Jewish to use JDate (You Don't Have to Be Jewish to Love JDate - NYTimes.com).

    3. And one would have to assume that one doesn't have to be black to use BlackPeopleMeet.com., however BPM is owned by Match.com and provides multiple services "targeted" at different demographics - same company, just different marketing.


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    Oh...well thank you for this. While we're at it, can you send me a screenshot of the box you have to click that says "I agree that I am heterosexual" when signing up for eHarmony? I'll bait my breath now.

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    Some states provide that businesses can't discriminate based on race, or religion, or sexual orientation.
    So tell me...what do JDate and BlackPeopleMeet use for discrimination, since it's obviously not religion or race.

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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    you are not correct.

    there is a difference in heterosexual dating sites and gay sites. they go after a different market and there is nothing until someone files a lawsuit that requires gay sites to offer services to straight people.

    their software was tailored to heterosexual relationships. they did not offer services to gays. yet now they are forced to by threat of law.
    there are a ton of dating sites out there that cater to specific criteria. they do not offer all solutions to everyone so it is you that have the faulty assumption.

    Actually I am correct as to the functioning of the law, otherwise they would not have felt needed to setup a companion site to handle the different demographic.


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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    1. I'm not "outraged", personally I don't have a problem with any business tailoring it's business model as they see fit. My opinion of what the law should be and how the law functions are two different things.

    2. You don't have to be Jewish to use JDate (You Don't Have to Be Jewish to Love JDate - NYTimes.com).

    3. And one would have to assume that one doesn't have to be black to use BlackPeopleMeet.com., however BPM is owned by Match.com and provides multiple services "targeted" at different demographics - same company, just different marketing.
    Maybe your eyes are sharper than mine, can you point out where the "Female" field for data entry can be found on the ManMate homosexual dating site and where the "Male" field for data entry can be found on the Pink Cupid lesbian dating site?

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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Actually I am correct as to the functioning of the law, otherwise they would not have felt needed to setup a companion site to handle the different demographic.


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    they were forced to setup a companion site.

    that would be like me walking into a muslim deli and suing him because he doesn't offer ham. he is discriminating against me and my religion because it allows me to eat ham and he doesn't offer it.

    not all companies are tailored to serve all people you can't come up with bogus discrimination lawsuits simply because they don't offer the services you require.
    gay dating sites do not offer all services to heterosexual people therefore they are discriminating against heterosexual people. someone just needs to file a lawsuit.

    the reason we don't is that we have no reason to go to a gay website to look for heterosexual people. same thing for gays they have no need to go to a heterosexual site and sue when the site doesn't offer the services they want.

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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Maybe your eyes are sharper than mine, can you point out where the "Female" field for data entry can be found on the ManMate homosexual dating site and where the "Male" field for data entry can be found on the Pink Cupid lesbian dating site?
    lets get the lawyers going file a class action suit for millions of dollars for discrimination.

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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    lets get the lawyers going file a class action suit for millions of dollars for discrimination.

    Yep, trying to nickle-n-dime some point is silly. If Jdate doesn't allow non-Jews to join (which they do) - research what state they are incorporated in, and sue them for religious discrimination if you want. If BlackPeopleMeet doesn't allow Asians to join - research what state they are incorporated in, and sue them for racial discrimination if you want. If MaleMate and PickCupid don't allow straights to join - research what state they are incorporated in and check to see if sexual orientation is covered, and sue them for sexual orientation discrimination if you want.

    If you guys think they are doing something illegal go to their site and create an account and find out. If they are, file a complaint. That's what you can do.





    What part of "businesses should be able to establish their own business model and accept or reject customers as they wish" do ya'll not get? Personally I think Public Accommodation laws should apply to government entities and their business dealings only.


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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Yep, trying to nickle-n-dime some point is silly. If Jdate doesn't allow non-Jews to join (which they do) - research what state they are incorporated in, and sue them for religious discrimination if you want. If BlackPeopleMeet doesn't allow Asians to join - research what state they are incorporated in, and sue them for racial discrimination if you want. If MaleMate and PickCupid don't allow straights to join - research what state they are incorporated in and check to see if sexual orientation is covered, and sue them for sexual orientation discrimination if you want.

    If you guys think they are doing something illegal go to their site and create an account and find out. If they are, file a complaint. That's what you can do.





    What part of "businesses should be able to establish their own business model and accept or reject customers as they wish" do ya'll not get? Personally I think Public Accommodation laws should apply to government entities and their business dealings only.


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    I'd really like to know where you get this "gays can't sign up on eHarmony" crap from. Do a bunch of pink bells and lisp-filled whistles go off if they put in a credit card number?

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    Re: Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex marriage* - NY Daily News

    Soooo, here it is, the other side of the coin. For all of you who cheered the veto of the Arizona protection of religion bill, we now have the flip side. Governor Martinez' hairdresser refuses to do business with her any more because of her views on gay marriage. Anyone want to try to defend this bigotry? After all the claims of Equality, it seems that equality really ISN'T the point after all.

    Personally, I'd sue his panties off just to make a point.
    I would defend his bigotry. But then again, I think that private business owners should be allowed to deny their service to whomever they desire.

    In the context of the people claiming ownership of another person's property and labor (which is the cornerstone of any argument demanding service when no rights have been violated), this man has done wrong, should be fined by the government and not allowed to discriminate against others.

    But dollars to donuts, all the people arguing that gay people own other folk will reverse argument here.
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    Re: The Other Side of the Coin

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The liberal idea that "all opinions are equally valid" is nonsense. The people against homosexuality cannot provide any evidence of why it is objectively harmful. By contrast, I can provide tangible examples of the harm caused by people discriminating against homosexuals. My arguments based on facts and logic do in fact trump irrational blind prejudice.
    You need rights violations, and even then the government can only act in the specific cases where rights have been violated. You have no right to another man's property or labor.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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