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    Re: Apple's Tim Cook: Business isnít just about making a profit

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'm going to go ahead and suggest that Cook knows how to make a profit better than this writer, or you. Image is a big part of how Apple gets away with their prices. An image targeting the liberal hippie college students.

    If you are a shareholder, go ahead and press charges. See if you can convince any judge or jury on the planet that freaking Apple isn't profitable enough.
    As has been pointed out by PeteEU, Apple profits are falling. Anyone can make a profit, at least for a while, when they are handed the top tech company in the world (at the time). He doesn't appear to have a clue how to maintain the profits.

    When profits of a company begin to fall it is entirely rational to start calling into question all of the for-a-loss side projects the company is involved in.

    Google is a good another company that sees itself as a philanthropic business, and they can afford to be at this point. If they start to a decline in YOY profits, however, the first thing on the chopping block would still need to be the negative ROI projects.
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    Re: Apple's Tim Cook: Business isnít just about making a profit

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Profit as the only objective is the mentality of the cartels.
    Then I must be a cartel. When I buy a stock, profit is my motive.

    When I sell a stock, lack of profit is my motivation.

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    Re: Apple's Tim Cook: Business isnít just about making a profit

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Then I must be a cartel. When I buy a stock, profit is my motive.

    When I sell a stock, lack of profit is my motivation.
    Would you buy stock in a cartel if you could?
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    Re: Apple's Tim Cook: Business isnít just about making a profit

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Would you buy stock in a cartel if you could?
    Possibly, possibly not. Depends on the definition of cartel and a number of other factors like profit vs. risk.

    What is certain is that I would not buy shares in a company whose stated goal is social engineering over profits.

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    Re: Apple's Tim Cook: Business isnít just about making a profit

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Possibly, possibly not. Depends on the definition of cartel and a number of other factors like profit vs. risk.

    What is certain is that I would not buy shares in a company whose stated goal is social engineering over profits.

    I'm talking about a cartel like the ones smuggling drugs into the US from Mexico and killing off as many of their competitors as possible. They can be very profitable, you know.
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    Re: Apple's Tim Cook: Business isnít just about making a profit

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm talking about a cartel like the ones smuggling drugs into the US from Mexico and killing off as many of their competitors as possible. They can be very profitable, you know.
    Under that definition, no, I would not. I do not invest in illegal activities.

    That is one of several definitions.

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    Re: Apple's Tim Cook: Business isnít just about making a profit

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    People don't invest in a company for social engineering.
    Agreed, for the most part they don't.

    F1Q APPL revenue was up 5.7% YOY to $57.5B and EPS was up 5.0% YOY to $14.50 beating consensus estimates of $13.74 by 5.5%.

    During (roughly) that same period stock price increased in the neighborhood of 23% from $450 to $550.

    APPL paid a $3.05 dividend this most recent Q, as they've paid a dividend every Q going back to 1987 (less those Qs they split).

    Of a dozen analysts whose reports I just read through every one calls APPL a Hold (or the equivalent) or better (several are calling it a Buy, or the equivalent).

    If your investment objective is see your money to make money there are a LOT worse places you can park it.

    Go back and read post #9 in this discussion.

    Therein I explained pretty much exactly what is happening here.

    This isn't a matter of Apple's liberal/green politics/philosophy causing pain to shareholders.

    This is a case of a single institutional investor engaging in politically motivated activism, getting slapped on the dick, and then crying like a baby who just ate a sour grape.
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    Re: Apple's Tim Cook: Business isnít just about making a profit

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Are you an investment advisor Joe?
    Have my own little business. I know what makes success.

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    Re: Apple's Tim Cook: Business isnít just about making a profit

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Agreed, for the most part they don't.

    F1Q APPL revenue was up 5.7% YOY to $57.5B and EPS was up 5.0% YOY to $14.50 beating consensus estimates of $13.74 by 5.5%.

    During (roughly) that same period stock price increased in the neighborhood of 23% from $450 to $550.

    APPL paid a $3.05 dividend this most recent Q, as they've paid a dividend every Q going back to 1987 (less those Qs they split).

    Of a dozen analysts whose reports I just read through every one calls APPL a Hold (or the equivalent) or better (several are calling it a Buy, or the equivalent).

    If your investment objective is see your money to make money there are a LOT worse places you can park it.

    Go back and read post #9 in this discussion.

    Therein I explained pretty much exactly what is happening here.

    This isn't a matter of Apple's liberal/green politics/philosophy causing pain to shareholders.

    This is a case of a single institutional investor engaging in politically motivated activism, getting slapped on the dick, and then crying like a baby who just ate a sour grape.
    To that I would say Cook is no Jobs. The rise didn't happen overnight, neither will the decline.
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    Re: Apple's Tim Cook: Business isnít just about making a profit

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Have my own little business. I know what makes success.
    Are we allowed to have different philosophy? Or is it a case of you know better?
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