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    Re: Kerry condemns Russia's 'incredible act of aggression' in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, agreed, but in you're post that I quoted, you were talking about Syria. I'm no defender of Obama's foreign policy, I just don't think there was anything he could do overtly in Syria, nor do I think there is anything he could or should do in Ukraine. And I'm definitely not interested in getting into a military confrontation with Russia. And I totally agree with you about Obama's hypocrisy regarding SA and Bahrain.
    Thats the point. He should stop making foolish statements he has no intention nor will to back up, be it in Syria, Ukraine, Detroit, Guantanamo Bay...

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    Re: Kerry condemns Russia's 'incredible act of aggression' in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sure seems a lot of people willing to risk war with Russia to defend the interests of only half of Ukrainians and against the interests of the rest. Classic definition of the pro-war crowd.
    Thats the problem with stirring up revolution. Egypt is feeling that. So is Libya. However, in the Ukraine, their country already had a declared path and investment...closer and stronger ties with the EU. It was not 'half' that decided to abandon those ties...it was their president.

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    Re: Kerry condemns Russia's 'incredible act of aggression' in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The head honcho in Russia joined the KGB 40 years ago, so I would say that not much has changed.
    He's not a KGB member anymore.

    Not that I expect anything to dissuade you from your blind hatred of all governments outside America and Western Europe (and westernized parts of Africa and Asia).

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    Re: Kerry condemns Russia's 'incredible act of aggression' in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    He's not a KGB member anymore.
    Once a KGB, always a KGB.
    I'm with apdst on this one .
    Physics is Phun

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    Re: Kerry condemns Russia's 'incredible act of aggression' in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Once a KGB, always a KGB.
    I'm with apdst on this one .
    I'm with Christ on this one. You can be obstinate in your secular phariseeism if you want.

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    Re: Kerry condemns Russia's 'incredible act of aggression' in Ukraine

    So when you lose the discussion with apdst, you play the Christ card.
    Do you think Putin is playing Christ with you or against you ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    I'm with Christ on this one. You can be obstinate in your secular phariseeism if you want.
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    Re: Kerry condemns Russia's 'incredible act of aggression' in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, what's really happening is that you guys know full well that there's no good outcome to US military action here. You know full well that the best course (well, only course really) the US can take is to issue disapproving diplomatic statements, get fellow NATO members to do the same, and put forward economic sanctions. Which is exactly what's happening.

    You know all of this, but Obama is doing it so you have to find a way to be mad about it. So you've invented a fantasy where someone who looks tougher could totally just have talked Russia out of securing a major strategic asset.
    Nonsense. You can stretch all you want to try to prop up this president, but he's boneless and inept. My estimation of his diplomatic skillset isn't at all just centered on this most recent event.

    A great president would have been working to head this off at the pass diplomatically months ago and wouldn't be blaring out empty threats. Those sanctions Obama is threatening now, that you're suggesting - empty bluster and Putin knows it. Once again, Russia is a chief security council member and will just veto any sanctions, just as the US does.

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    Re: Kerry condemns Russia's 'incredible act of aggression' in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    So when you lose the discussion with apdst, you play the Christ card.
    Do you think Putin is playing Christ with you or against you ?
    Summary dismissals are not valid refutations. So are you admitting that Christ would disagree with you, and simply saying that you don't care, or are you actually arguing that he would have held it against someone that they used to commit a specific type of immorality?

    I don't understand the question.

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    Re: Kerry condemns Russia's 'incredible act of aggression' in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How do you figure, "only half of Ukrainians?
    He might be referring to the fact that about half the population of Ukraine are native Ukrainians while the other half are Russian, who speak Russian, and who would not be adverse to being under Russian rule again.

    Greetings, apdst.

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    Re: Kerry condemns Russia's 'incredible act of aggression' in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Thats the point. He should stop making foolish statements he has no intention nor will to back up, be it in Syria, Ukraine, Detroit, Guantanamo Bay...
    Oh I agree with that. He may have been caught off guard in Syria, but appears to not have learned his lesson.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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