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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    could you please point to the part of the Constitution which caused her rights to be nullified
    She cannot invoke the fifth after she has already testified. After her testimony she is allowed to be cross examined. Had she immediately aken the fifth it would have been different. You can look at the law.

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    No I don't think the Commitee is interested in finding the truth.
    How is that remotely possible when the women who first apologized for targeting Conservatives, and then lied about some nameless faceless low level IRS employee being the source of the targeting, then takes the Fifth a total of 23 Times ?

    Funny, your'e concerned about her rights, but what about the rights of the American Citizens that she first "apologized" too ?

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    No I don't think the Commitee is interested in finding the truth.
    Are you interested in finding the truth?

    Cummings was cut off because he brought politics into the inquiry, starting with his accusations against the Republican party. This would be better mentioned outside the committee if he feels strongly about the issue, while the media could respond to his accusations. It should not become a forum for political party bickering..

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    As an individual she should enjoy the protection of the %th Amendment, as F'ed up as that seems. But as a representative of the IRS she should be compelled to provide documentation about where the orders originated. If she can not produce the documents (I'm sure they are dust by now) she should be cooling in a cell until she can. A government agency as powerful as the IRS should have transparency. She says that she was in fear for her life from right wing groups, she should be. And the rest of them should be too. Considering the lengths they go to to collect money from us all, denying us the benefit of oversight could be considered by some to be a government gone rouge. It is only a matter of time before someone tips the scale from frustrated to vigilante. IMO it may very well be deserved. We are supposed to be a nation of laws. A government that refuses to submit to the people will only stand as long as the people remain spineless. Statistically speaking there are way too many people in this country for them to all be pussies.

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    She cannot invoke the fifth after she has already testified. After her testimony she is allowed to be cross examined. Had she immediately aken the fifth it would have been different. You can look at the law.
    as usual, you are wrong
    she alone gets to make a determination when it is appropriate to invoke her right against self incrimination
    nothing you have posted - or could possibly post - changes that reality
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    How is that remotely possible when the women who first apologized for targeting Conservatives, and then lied about some nameless faceless low level IRS employee being the source of the targeting, then takes the Fifth a total of 23 Times ?

    Funny, your'e concerned about her rights, but what about the rights of the American Citizens that she first "apologized" too ?
    show us your cite for her apology so we know what you are referring to
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    actually, and this is admittedly rare, cummings made an excellent point, and asked a pertinent question, deserving of consideration by the committee: what would be the detriment of listening to lerner's attorney's proffer. after spending $14 million thus far and having nothing to show for it, why not learn what potentially beneficial information could be available by hearing the proffer
    So why are Democrats wasting the taxpayers money by evading the light of day? This is the transparency we were promised by Pelosi and Obama. I know... "On advice of my council..."
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    I thought Obama said there was not a smidgen, if that is the way the word is spelled, of corruption in the IRS, so why would she need to take the 5th on anything?

    Could it be that Obama was wrong?

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I thought Obama said there was not a smidgen, if that is the way the word is spelled, of corruption in the IRS, so why would she need to take the 5th on anything?

    Could it be that Obama was wrong?
    Impossible.

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    as usual, you are wrong
    she alone gets to make a determination when it is appropriate to invoke her right against self incrimination
    nothing you have posted - or could possibly post - changes that reality
    So anyone can invoke the fifth at any time during their testimony? That seems to be a very recent interpretation of the law. Do you have a source?

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