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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    If she's covering Obama's ass, it may very well be that she'll get one when she takes the fall for him. I'd be on the look out for that.
    Well, if anything we know it was done on his behalf. Whether it was done under his direction is the question, isn't it? Personally, growing up with Chicago politics I have no doubt in my mind that he was in on it.

    People might assume that it is the partisan in me that makes me believe this but it isn't, it's the Chicago in me.

    This is textbook Machine politics that old Daley himself is smiling from the grave over.

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Well, if anything we know it was done on his behalf. Whether it was done under his direction is the question, isn't it? Personally, growing up with Chicago politics I have no doubt in my mind that he was in on it.

    People might assume that it is the partisan in me that makes me believe this but it isn't, it's the Chicago in me.

    This is textbook Machine politics that old Daley himself is smiling from the grave over.
    Oh, I have no doubt that Obama had knowledge of it going on, whether he ordered it, or just gave the appropriate wink and nod at the right time to get it done it very much open to debate, and frankly we'll probably never know for sure. I'm also sure that he'll have some sort of plausible deniability in place so that he can't get hung for it.

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Well, if anything we know it was done on his behalf. Whether it was done under his direction is the question, isn't it? Personally, growing up with Chicago politics I have no doubt in my mind that he was in on it.

    People might assume that it is the partisan in me that makes me believe this but it isn't, it's the Chicago in me.

    This is textbook Machine politics that old Daley himself is smiling from the grave over.
    It does fit the Obama MO perfectly, doesn't it? He doesn't like a legal decision or law so he finds a way through his administration to circumvent it. He didn't like the Citizens United SCOTUS decision and leveraged the IRS to "fix" it.
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    But that is just conjecture on your part and a willingness to cover for people on your side of the political spectrum. If this was the Bush Whitehouse and the situation were reversed you would be singing a different tune and you know it. So you lack credibility. Sorry.
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You know how potentially damning this sitiation is based on the lefts continued mitigations and attempts to divert away from the real issue.

    They want this all to disappear and fast.

    Whether they like it or not Lois Lerner's continued refusal to answer questions looks bad Politically and not only for Obama, but for the Democrats in general and in a election year no less.


    According to them this is a bunch of contirived GOP motivated BS with Issa as the the bad guy. Oh and Lerner exercising her right not to incriminate herself is absolutley irrelevent.

    The problem with that is Lerner could make all of this go away easily AND make Issa and the GOP look like a bunch of partisan motivated bullies in the process by just aswering the questions.


    If there is nothing behind the charges of Obama's use of the IRS to target Conservatives then wouldn't the wise strategy employ truth and full disclosure instead of obfuscating ?

    Thd left wants us to think the Democrats are passing up a golden oppurtuntiy here.

    Think about the implications of shutting down this investigation in a election year. The Democrats would be able to expand upon a victory over Issa and the GOP for the next 8 months.

    But thats not whats happening.

    Lerner and the Democrats are making sure this issue stays alive and theyre making sure that these charges of unprecedented corruption continue to go on unanswered.

    There is only one explanation for Lerners continued refusal to amswer questions and most objective Americans know that it has nothing to do with the person asking them.
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    But that is just conjecture on your part and a willingness to cover for people on your side of the political spectrum. If this was the Bush Whitehouse and the situation were reversed you would be singing a different tune and you know it. So you lack credibility. Sorry.
    Absolutely.

    Imagine:
    -Bush suppressing his political opponents by setting the IRS on them.
    -Letting an American ambassador and other Americans get killed on 9/11, by Al Qaieda, while he was campaigning for re-election, and then covering up what they knew about.
    -Spying on nearly every Americans phone calls and emails
    -Investigating and threatening journalists.

    It would be the end of days, but since its a democrat-they have the balls to defend it.

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Absolutely.

    Imagine:
    -Bush suppressing his political opponents by setting the IRS on them.
    -Letting an American ambassador and other Americans get killed on 9/11, by Al Qaieda, while he was campaigning for re-election, and then covering up what they knew about.
    -Spying on nearly every Americans phone calls and emails
    -Investigating and threatening journalists.

    It would be the end of days, but since its a democrat-they have the balls to defend it.
    Ask the Amish about Bush. Then you won't have to imagine.

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Why is belief the criteria? Shouldn't evidence be?
    She has no interest in providing the evidence. Cummings is diverting attention from that and trying to change the story to Issa. Instructions from up high, I have not the slightest doubt.

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Any official attached to the IRS is the government. The IRS and NSA and ATF are the greatest opponents of liberty this country has. Put them all in the ground and call in a dozer.
    This is a perfect example which shows that not every person is actually following the story. Ms Lerner resigned last year, therefore she WAS a government official. Today she IS NOT a government official.
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    She has no interest in providing the evidence. Cummings is diverting attention from that and trying to change the story to Issa. Instructions from up high, I have not the slightest doubt.
    but your boy, issa, insisted otherwise. just look at the thread title and see
    let's watch him fail to offer the emails he says he has which he insisted was the basis for his allegation
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