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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    maybe becuase there was not enough liberal groups applying to make it a 50/50 ratio.
    Oh, of course there wasn't. It was just a ****ing coincidence that for years under Obama almost no liberal groups applied. That must have been it!
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Sure they were, but it wasn't even close to a 50/50 ratio.
    what was the ratio?
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

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    what was the ratio?
    New Breakdown of Groups Targeted by IRS - Washington Wire - WSJ
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the nixon tapes reveal alot more than that.
    Imagine if we had the full truth of this like we got with those tapes.
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    wrong out of the gate
    but prove me wrong instead
    offer us a cite which shows the IRS employees engaged in illegal activity
    a challenge offered to demonstrate your side has no idea what it is posting about
    My understanding is that the IRS should, and needs to, hold the information they have in a confidential manner, and not have that information released to others. Yes?



    So, yes. The IRS has in fact committed an illegal act, has it not?

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Of course you can have a politically ideological 501c4, you are being ridiculous. If their cause for organizing is one with a clear cut party line (like taxation, abortion, etc.) then they will be liberal or conservative ideologically and still be qualified as a 501c4. You can stomp your feet and hold your breath until your face turns blue, but promoting lower taxes and balanced budgets IS promoting social welfare.
    Umm... No.... The law defines 501c4's as
    (501) (C) (4)
    (A) Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare, or local associations of employees, the membership of which is limited to the employees of a designated person or persons in a particular municipality, and the net earnings of which are devoted exclusively to charitable, educational, or recreational purposes.
    (B) Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to an entity unless no part of the net earnings of such entity inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual.

    Politics is not social welfare. Now I agree, these groups can lobby, but they can't engage in electioneering in any way shape or form.

    Social Welfare - The well-being of the entire society. Social welfare is not the same as standard of living but is more concerned with the quality of life that includes factors such as the quality of the environment (air, soil, water), level of crime, extent of drug abuse, availability of essential social services, as well as religious and spiritual aspects of life.

    Forming a political group interested in electing people who will reform the tax code is NOT social welfare.

    If you want to do that, then you should file under 26 U.S.C. § 527 : US Code - Section 527: Political organizations

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Maybe they mentioned the concept of Contempt of Congress to her. Frankly I'd like to see her ass frog-marched into the committee chamber.
    She was certainly smug as she was entering and leaving. She may have friends in high places.

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what was the ratio?
    Applications were between 4:1 and 5:1 conservative to liberal groups. Investigations were closer to 3:1 conservative to liberal. A liberal political group had a much higher chance of being investigated than a conservative group.

    Ahh.. Bayesian math.

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Maybe they mentioned the concept of Contempt of Congress to her. Frankly I'd like to see her ass frog-marched into the committee chamber.
    how does pleading the 5th amendment make someone in contempt of congress.
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Misogyny is not the same as irony. Explaining the disconnect between Issa's claim that Lerner agreed to testify, and Lerner's immediate counter that she did not as "Lerner exercising her woman's prerogative" isn't irony.
    Nor was it intended as irony. That you do not understand it's meaning is why you should avoid it.

    A real example of irony is what happens when an individual that's paranoid about government lies places all their faith in a con artist; and completely ignores and excuses that con artist's baldfaced lies. So you're right; you're far better at irony than I am.... unfortunately for you.
    What are you talking about here?

    I'm sorry, it's hard to imagine that even a small child would not recognize that Issa was lying when he said that Lerner agreed to testify last week. Left, right, center, wherever... Believing that Issa was telling the truth is akin to believing that pro wrestling is real. But please.. pretend away.
    How do you know he was lying? Apparently her attorney said she would be there and minds were changed. We don't enough of what happened to support any claim that anyone involved was 'a liar'. Leftists throw this word around with such ease and do not seem to understand, again as with 'irony', what they are saying.
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