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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, and Watergate was just a two bit break in by people not connected to the President. On anonymous donations. Maybe if Obama's protectors hadn't changed the rules to put to rest all the nefarious out of country donations to the Obama campaign in 08 you libs, and maybe the country wouldn't have this problem.
    Watergate was nothing compared to this IRS thing yet the media were on that and Nixon 24/7. Now they largely ignore one of the biggest and potentially dangerous scandals in US history, which is a huge disservice to the American people and denigrates the reputation of the MSM even further. Even if the Democrats win, Lerner never testifies, and the whole thing stays covered up, how can that be good for the America people?

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Watergate was nothing compared to this IRS thing yet the media were on that and Nixon 24/7. Now they largely ignore one of the biggest and potentially dangerous scandals in US history, which is a huge disservice to the American people and denigrates the reputation of the MSM even further. Even if the Democrats win, Lerner never testifies, and the whole thing stays covered up, how can that be good for the America people?
    Watergate was nothing compared to this IRS thing ...
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    you cannot even tell us what the IRS 'thing' is, yet you pretend it is more significant than watergate
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you cannot even tell us what the IRS 'thing' is, yet you pretend it is more significant than watergate
    The "IRS thing" is the intentional harassment and delay of conservative 501(c)(4) applications in the run up to the 2012 election. Just because you haven't been listening doesn't mean people haven't been very specifically clear as to what the IRS "thing" is.
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The "IRS thing" is the intentional harassment and delay of conservative 501(c)(4) applications in the run up to the 2012 election. Just because you haven't been listening doesn't mean people haven't been very specifically clear as to what the IRS "thing" is.
    the real scandal would have been if the IRS was not doing its job.
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    you cannot even tell us what the IRS 'thing' is, yet you pretend it is more significant than watergate
    You haven't been paying attention nor, apparently, do you know anything about Watergate. Is a series of ha's intended to pass for snappy leftist repartee?

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the real scandal would have been if the IRS was not doing its job.
    Well good, then we agree, since applying tax law with a political bias is not the job of the IRS.
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Usually this about face requires "immunity", in this case for Lerner - I wonder if that was part of the deal.
    Maybe they mentioned the concept of Contempt of Congress to her. Frankly I'd like to see her ass frog-marched into the committee chamber.
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I have no problem with that whatsoever.

    I want to know who politicians are beholden too.

    And the SC says disclosure is perfectly Constitutional. Right in the CU decision.
    So you support the IRS taking illegal actions which abuse their power. Nice.
    Would you maintain the same position had it be liberal groups who's donors names were released to conservative groups? . . . . . I didn't think so.

    Some are saying that Lerner is taking the 5th so that she won't reveal the trail back to Holder and Obama. Others are saying that she's taking the 5th so she can get immunity before accepting blame for everything - whether true or protecting the president, I don't think we'll ever find out (maybe if she writes her memoirs and publishes them after she dies or something).

    So yes, political theater and a Mexican stand off.

    In all this political theater, no one seems to be talking about the real issue here. The real threat.

    If this is allowed to pass without criminal prosecutions, the precedence will be set for all future administrations that the IRS is at their disposal to attack and antagonize political opponents, whether they be individuals or political groups.

    With the likelihood increasing that the next administration will be a Republican one, are the Obama, Holder, Lerner defenders; are the conspiracy deniers really of the position that this use and abuse of the IRS power should be allowed to set precedence? Think back to the Nixon era. Wasn't Nixon also accused of use the IRS in this manner? (yes he was)

    So, why such denials when the tables are turned?

    The IRS has the power to inflict absolute hell and bankruptcy on any person or any group in the country, and should be, hell needs to be, 100% certifiable non-partisan in it's application of the powers that it has been granted in the name of the people.

    This is the real issue in my view, far beyond Lerner, Holder and even Obama.

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Well good, then we agree, since applying tax law with a political bias is not the job of the IRS.
    its the IRS's job to make sure all those applicants applying for anonymity were legitimate social welfare groups.
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This is the question I was responding to.


    There is a serious comprehension deficit among Leftists which, if the country is to survive, should be covered by the ACA. They can't do irony either.
    Misogyny is not the same as irony. Explaining the disconnect between Issa's claim that Lerner agreed to testify, and Lerner's immediate counter that she did not as "Lerner exercising her woman's prerogative" isn't irony.

    A real example of irony is what happens when an individual that's paranoid about government lies places all their faith in a con artist; and completely ignores and excuses that con artist's baldfaced lies. So you're right; you're far better at irony than I am.... unfortunately for you.


    I'm sorry, it's hard to imagine that even a small child would not recognize that Issa was lying when he said that Lerner agreed to testify last week. Left, right, center, wherever... Believing that Issa was telling the truth is akin to believing that pro wrestling is real. But please.. pretend away.

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