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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    Because then she might take sole responsibility and then we wouldn't be able to prosecute anyone for their crimes.
    She still would be liable for prosecution for perjury, would she not?
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and without her testimony, you will not be able to prosecute anyone
    that really sucks for your side
    What does ones "side" have to do with anything? You would think EVERY side would want to make sure there is no wrongdoing going on in the nations most powerful bureaucracy, and denounce the fact that the key figure in the whole thing refuses to talk for fear of incriminating herself. The idea that you would defend this person simply because she happenes to be on your team is very short sighted and foolish.

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    She can't claim the 5th if their are no crimes that she could be incriminated for.
    Uhhh....... that's the entire point of the 5th.

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    Are you seriously saying that because she pleads the 5th she must be guilty?

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    What does ones "side" have to do with anything? You would think EVERY side would want to make sure there is no wrongdoing going on in the nations most powerful bureaucracy, and denounce the fact that the key figure in the whole thing refuses to talk for fear of incriminating herself. The idea that you would defend this person simply because she happenes to be on your team is very short sighted and foolish.
    I agree that every side should be outraged at wrongdoing; namely the unlawful creation of political groups under the guise of social welfare 501c4's for the sole purpose of anonymously contributing unlimited amounts to campaigns.

    Any political group, Tea Party or otherwise, is free to form a tax exempt 527 group. They're also free to simply declare themselves to be 501c4's without any need for pre-approval by the IRS. The only reason to get pre-approval for a 501c4 is if you think your group is questionable and don't want to risk exposing your donors.

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

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    So... what you are saying is that your evaluation of race is really no different than that of a Louisianan bus driver in 1960?
    No, I am saying the idea that someone making the point that Obama is "half-black" is both ludicrous and racist...

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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    No, he did not ask a question of Lerner. He asked a question of the committee not the same thing. He was supposed to be asking questions of the witness, not his fellow "judges".
    cummings indicated he was directing his question to the committee and its chair
    for some reason, the reich wing seems to believe that issa is entitled to fashion his questions and those of the other committee members
    so much for the reich wing's belief in a representative democracy
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    She can't claim the 5th if their are no crimes that she could be incriminated for.
    sure she can
    and so can you
    she may not have any idea where they are headed with this investigation. so, it would be smart - which is why she has counsel - to exercise her Constitutional right against self incrimination
    why is the reich wing so opposed to Constitutional rights and the exercise of them?
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Cummings can grand stand on nearly any network he wants ... partisan dinner theatre was lol worthy at it's obviousness. You still on about justbubba? Hope you get paid well for it...
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    What does ones "side" have to do with anything? You would think EVERY side would want to make sure there is no wrongdoing going on in the nations most powerful bureaucracy, and denounce the fact that the key figure in the whole thing refuses to talk for fear of incriminating herself. The idea that you would defend this person simply because she happenes to be on your team is very short sighted and foolish.
    we, as citizens, would hope that our government's interest would be to ferret out wrongdoing
    but what we have seen by issa's actions is an attempt to find something to blame on the president and his administration
    anyone, even a fool, can see that this is about gotcha politics and has nothing to do with the truth
    if it were actually about the truth, then we would have accepted what the republican appointed IG said his investigation revealed: the actions of the IRS were not politically motivated
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    Re: Lois Lerner does about-face, will give Hill testimony on IRS scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    No, he did not ask a question of Lerner. He asked a question of the committee not the same thing. He was supposed to be asking questions of the witness, not his fellow "judges".
    She was clearly out of order and Issa showed great tolerance in not throwing her out. He gave her several instances to make her point and instead she made a speech.

    The chairman, rightfully, adjourned the meeting; what happened after that is not part of the official record and he antics following where no more than a spoiled, ignorant, propagandist throwing a petty temper tantrum, only more civil than the Obama apologists on this forum.

    Based on his support anymore, it is clear he is an incompetent blow hard pimping the needs of the poor so he can travel the globe like a rock star. Since the beginning, when he first surfaced at the DNC convention in '04, his supporters have NEVER been able to reasonably discuss the issues, but instead scream "racist!" at the slightest criticism. And since then the thinking Democrats have run to the woods since Obamacare, Benghazi, and Syria, leaving only shallow and selfish name callers to explain such complex laws as Obamacare.

    It is a wonder that Obama's support is still at 40% with clamoring lemmings rewriting not only history, but the daily news.

    Please, anyone, show me where in all of that ignorant woman's speech any sentence that be ended with a question mark....or is grade five parsing of a sentence beyond the intellectual capacity of Obama's fawning fans?
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